Been chatting with Manik and we'd like to organize a conf call with the Hibernate folks to discuss the issues listed http://wiki.jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=JBossCacheHibernateAlignment. Basically to clarify any open issues on things like putForExternalRead(), discuss the other issues where solutions are less clear, and come up with an action plan for when the solutions can be implemented. Next week is not good, but we were thinking about the week after. How does Monday, Jan 23 at 10:00 AM EST sound? Besides the main addressees on this message, anyone cc'd is welcome to participate. Once we settle on a date/time I'll send out conf call details. Cheers, Brian Stansberry Lead, AS Clustering JBoss, a division of Red Hat