Sumanth, Welcome, thanks for your offer to contribute. We sincerely appreciate any help. Currently Teiid does not mandate any coding guidelines, however there are few things we do follow. I try to put something simple put together very soon on WIKI. Usually we use the default code formatting comes with Eclipse install. I am thinking in the lines of http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/JbpmCodingGuidelines I will post to the dev-list in couple days, you are welcome to contribute. The digest replying instructions are usually at the beginning of the digest message. It is no more than selecting the "reply all" and changing the subject line to the reflect the message you are replying to with "Re:" in the front. Please make sure that you include only sections of the message that you are replying to. Since Teiid is low volume list, you can turn off the digest otherwise. Now coming to project, if you have any ideas about this tooling project, please let us know, we can discuss and make them part of the project if we all agree. I will let Sanjay answer if he needs any assistance with the work. Teiid has plenty of other tasks if you would like to contribute, both eclipse and non-eclipse related. If you only want to do "eclipse" work, 1) we are in urgent need of Teiid integration with Eclipse DTP (data tools platform). Basically Teiid needs to another source, where somebody can connect to and issue queries against. 2) We can also use this in Phase 2 of CDK tooling project, where we can deploy connector to and issue queries aginst. 3)That could be expanded to tooling around the the "Connector Metadata" feature, where some one could define multiple sources in DTP and integrate them using Teiid. We have ton of work on the non-eclipse side too, lot of issues are mentioned on the JIRA system. Submitting a patches is excellent way to contribute, take a look if anything interests you. Let me know what interests you, then we can plan and discuss accordingly. Thanks again. Ramesh.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sumanth P K" <sumanth.technical(a)gmail.com&gt; To: email2sanjayc(a)gmail.com, "Ramesh Reddy" <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; Cc: teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:17:15 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Teiid Eclipse Plugin Sanjay / Ramesh, I have been following the discussion regarding the requirements of Teiid CDK Plugin for Eclipse. I am interested in taking part in the process. Let me know what pieces I can start looking into and I can start the same. We may need to come up with some preliminary standards that everybody should follow (for example: naming conventions, exception handling to name a few), so that inconsistencies are avoided. Ramesh - I know it has been quite a while since I had communicated to you regarding this. I have been going through the documents and have some idea on how things work. And I guess I am now better placed to understand the terms involved. To be honest the pace from my end had been slow, but I intend to devote more time to this from now onwards. Also, I had subscribed to the Teiid message digest and hence can any of you please let me know how to reply to a specific mail in the digest. (I did not know how to do that and hence had to send this email separately.). Thanks, Sumanth. _______________________________________________ teiid-dev mailing list teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev

John, Thanks for heads up. I have not seen the requirements, thus the post. Please let us know, if Sumanth can help with any of this. Please also consider items (2) & (3) from below for your design, as they would be desired features in coming releases. Thanks. Ramesh.. On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 09:56 -0400, John Doyle wrote: > FYI, Steve and Barry put me to work on Data Tools integration for Designer last week. I'm working on driver definitions and connection profiles right now, and will have a write up later this week so that we can discuss direction. > > ~jd > ----- "Ramesh Reddy" <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > > Sumanth, > > > > Welcome, thanks for your offer to contribute. We sincerely appreciate > > any help. > > > > Currently Teiid does not mandate any coding guidelines, however there > > are few things we do follow. I try to put something simple put > > together very soon on WIKI. Usually we use the default code formatting > > comes with Eclipse install. I am thinking in the lines of > > http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/JbpmCodingGuidelines > > I will post to the dev-list in couple days, you are welcome to > > contribute. > > > > The digest replying instructions are usually at the beginning of the > > digest message. It is no more than selecting the "reply all" and > > changing the subject line to the reflect the message you are replying > > to with "Re:" in the front. Please make sure that you include only > > sections of the message that you are replying to. Since Teiid is low > > volume list, you can turn off the digest otherwise. > > > > Now coming to project, if you have any ideas about this tooling > > project, please let us know, we can discuss and make them part of the > > project if we all agree. I will let Sanjay answer if he needs any > > assistance with the work. Teiid has plenty of other tasks if you would > > like to contribute, both eclipse and non-eclipse related. > > > > If you only want to do "eclipse" work, > > 1) we are in urgent need of Teiid integration with Eclipse DTP (data > > tools platform). Basically Teiid needs to another source, where > > somebody can connect to and issue queries against. > > 2) We can also use this in Phase 2 of CDK tooling project, where we > > can deploy connector to and issue queries aginst. > > 3)That could be expanded to tooling around the the "Connector > > Metadata" feature, where some one could define multiple sources in DTP > > and integrate them using Teiid. > > > > We have ton of work on the non-eclipse side too, lot of issues are > > mentioned on the JIRA system. Submitting a patches is excellent way to > > contribute, take a look if anything interests you. > > > > Let me know what interests you, then we can plan and discuss > > accordingly. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > Ramesh.. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sumanth P K" <sumanth.technical(a)gmail.com&gt; > > To: email2sanjayc(a)gmail.com, "Ramesh Reddy" <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > > Cc: teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:17:15 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada > > Central > > Subject: Teiid Eclipse Plugin > > > > > > Sanjay / Ramesh, > > > > I have been following the discussion regarding the requirements of > > Teiid CDK Plugin for Eclipse. I am interested in taking part in the > > process. Let me know what pieces I can start looking into and I can > > start the same. We may need to come up with some preliminary standards > > that everybody should follow (for example: naming conventions, > > exception handling to name a few), so that inconsistencies are > > avoided. > > > > Ramesh - I know it has been quite a while since I had communicated to > > you regarding this. I have been going through the documents and have > > some idea on how things work. And I guess I am now better placed to > > understand the terms involved. To be honest the pace from my end had > > been slow, but I intend to devote more time to this from now onwards. > > > > > > Also, I had subscribed to the Teiid message digest and hence can any > > of you please let me know how to reply to a specific mail in the > > digest. (I did not know how to do that and hence had to send this > > email separately.). > > > > Thanks, > > Sumanth. > > _______________________________________________ > > teiid-dev mailing list > > teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev _______________________________________________ teiid-dev mailing list teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev

I don't have any specific requirements yet, beyond getting us working in this environment, but I've very interested in having a discussion around the points called out in this thread. Once I get the basic connectivity worked out this week I going to put forward my thoughts on where we should go with data tools, what the priorities should be, and some of the challenges that this environment presents for us. I'll put it on the WIKI and pos a link here. ~jd ----- "Ramesh Reddy" <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > John, > > Thanks for heads up. I have not seen the requirements, thus the post. > Please let us know, if Sumanth can help with any of this. Please also > consider items (2) & (3) from below for your design, as they would be > desired features in coming releases. > > Thanks. > > Ramesh.. > > On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 09:56 -0400, John Doyle wrote: > > FYI, Steve and Barry put me to work on Data Tools integration for > Designer last week. I'm working on driver definitions and connection > profiles right now, and will have a write up later this week so that > we can discuss direction. > > > > ~jd > > ----- "Ramesh Reddy" <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > > > > Sumanth, > > > > > > Welcome, thanks for your offer to contribute. We sincerely > appreciate > > > any help. > > > > > > Currently Teiid does not mandate any coding guidelines, however > there > > > are few things we do follow. I try to put something simple put > > > together very soon on WIKI. Usually we use the default code > formatting > > > comes with Eclipse install. I am thinking in the lines of > > > http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/JbpmCodingGuidelines > > > I will post to the dev-list in couple days, you are welcome to > > > contribute. > > > > > > The digest replying instructions are usually at the beginning of > the > > > digest message. It is no more than selecting the "reply all" and > > > changing the subject line to the reflect the message you are > replying > > > to with "Re:" in the front. Please make sure that you include > only > > > sections of the message that you are replying to. Since Teiid is > low > > > volume list, you can turn off the digest otherwise. > > > > > > Now coming to project, if you have any ideas about this tooling > > > project, please let us know, we can discuss and make them part of > the > > > project if we all agree. I will let Sanjay answer if he needs any > > > assistance with the work. Teiid has plenty of other tasks if you > would > > > like to contribute, both eclipse and non-eclipse related. > > > > > > If you only want to do "eclipse" work, > > > 1) we are in urgent need of Teiid integration with Eclipse DTP > (data > > > tools platform). Basically Teiid needs to another source, where > > > somebody can connect to and issue queries against. > > > 2) We can also use this in Phase 2 of CDK tooling project, where > we > > > can deploy connector to and issue queries aginst. > > > 3)That could be expanded to tooling around the the "Connector > > > Metadata" feature, where some one could define multiple sources in > DTP > > > and integrate them using Teiid. > > > > > > We have ton of work on the non-eclipse side too, lot of issues > are > > > mentioned on the JIRA system. Submitting a patches is excellent > way to > > > contribute, take a look if anything interests you. > > > > > > Let me know what interests you, then we can plan and discuss > > > accordingly. > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > Ramesh.. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sumanth P K" <sumanth.technical(a)gmail.com&gt; > > > To: email2sanjayc(a)gmail.com, "Ramesh Reddy" <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > > > Cc: teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:17:15 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada > > > Central > > > Subject: Teiid Eclipse Plugin > > > > > > > > > Sanjay / Ramesh, > > > > > > I have been following the discussion regarding the requirements > of > > > Teiid CDK Plugin for Eclipse. I am interested in taking part in > the > > > process. Let me know what pieces I can start looking into and I > can > > > start the same. We may need to come up with some preliminary > standards > > > that everybody should follow (for example: naming conventions, > > > exception handling to name a few), so that inconsistencies are > > > avoided. > > > > > > Ramesh - I know it has been quite a while since I had communicated > to > > > you regarding this. I have been going through the documents and > have > > > some idea on how things work. And I guess I am now better placed > to > > > understand the terms involved. To be honest the pace from my end > had > > > been slow, but I intend to devote more time to this from now > onwards. > > > > > > > > > Also, I had subscribed to the Teiid message digest and hence can > any > > > of you please let me know how to reply to a specific mail in the > > > digest. (I did not know how to do that and hence had to send this > > > email separately.). > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sumanth. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > teiid-dev mailing list > > > teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev > > _______________________________________________ > teiid-dev mailing list > teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev

Hi Ramesh, I had gone briefly through the connector development guide; did not seem to see any direct java/dos command to generate the necessary template classes. It will be helpful if you can get me the skeleton classes/interfaces, which will get generated though the Eclipse wizard. Under the extension directories I looked at the sources for some of these connector jars: connector-ldap-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar connector-xml-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar connector-jdbc-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar connector-text-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar Thanks Sanjay On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Ramesh Reddy <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: Sumanth, Welcome, thanks for your offer to contribute. We sincerely appreciate any help. Currently Teiid does not mandate any coding guidelines, however there are few things we do follow. I try to put something simple put together very soon on WIKI. Usually we use the default code formatting comes with Eclipse install. I am thinking in the lines of http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/JbpmCodingGuidelines I will post to the dev-list in couple days, you are welcome to contribute. The digest replying instructions are usually at the beginning of the digest message. It is no more than selecting the "reply all" and changing the subject line to the reflect the message you are replying to with "Re:" in the front. Please make sure that you include only sections of the message that you are replying to. Since Teiid is low volume list, you can turn off the digest otherwise. Now coming to project, if you have any ideas about this tooling project, please let us know, we can discuss and make them part of the project if we all agree. I will let Sanjay answer if he needs any assistance with the work. Teiid has plenty of other tasks if you would like to contribute, both eclipse and non-eclipse related. If you only want to do "eclipse" work, 1) we are in urgent need of Teiid integration with Eclipse DTP (data tools platform). Basically Teiid needs to another source, where somebody can connect to and issue queries against. 2) We can also use this in Phase 2 of CDK tooling project, where we can deploy connector to and issue queries aginst. 3)That could be expanded to tooling around the the "Connector Metadata" feature, where some one could define multiple sources in DTP and integrate them using Teiid. We have ton of work on the non-eclipse side too, lot of issues are mentioned on the JIRA system. Submitting a patches is excellent way to contribute, take a look if anything interests you. Let me know what interests you, then we can plan and discuss accordingly. Thanks again. Ramesh.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sumanth P K" <sumanth.technical(a)gmail.com&gt; To: email2sanjayc(a)gmail.com, "Ramesh Reddy" <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; Cc: teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:17:15 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Teiid Eclipse Plugin Sanjay / Ramesh, I have been following the discussion regarding the requirements of Teiid CDK Plugin for Eclipse. I am interested in taking part in the process. Let me know what pieces I can start looking into and I can start the same. We may need to come up with some preliminary standards that everybody should follow (for example: naming conventions, exception handling to name a few), so that inconsistencies are avoided. Ramesh - I know it has been quite a while since I had communicated to you regarding this. I have been going through the documents and have some idea on how things work. And I guess I am now better placed to understand the terms involved. To be honest the pace from my end had been slow, but I intend to devote more time to this from now onwards. Also, I had subscribed to the Teiid message digest and hence can any of you please let me know how to reply to a specific mail in the digest. (I did not know how to do that and hence had to send this email separately.). Thanks, Sumanth. _______________________________________________ teiid-dev mailing list teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev

Hi Ramesh, Thanks. Will use connector-loopback to get started with along with the same directory structure as the template. Sanjay On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Ramesh Reddy <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: Sanjay, No, Teiid do not have tools currently to produce the templates. Look in the "connector-api" project's "org.teiid.connector.api" package to see the interface classes. Also, "org.teiid.connector.basic" package provides the base class implementations of these interfaces. The generated ones should extend the from basic and override certain methods. connector-loopback may be the simplest to see what are must have classes to generate to provide a simple "hello world" kind of connector. connector-jdbc would be other extreme as to what we can do. The idea here somebody is trying to write these connectors, and we are providing a development environment for them. Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. Ramesh.. On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 15:12 -0500, Sanjay Chaudhuri wrote: > Hi Ramesh, > > I had gone briefly through the connector development guide; did not > seem to see any direct java/dos command to generate the necessary > template classes. It will be helpful if you can get me the skeleton > classes/interfaces, which will get generated though the Eclipse > wizard. > > Under the extension directories I looked at the sources for some of > these connector jars: > connector-ldap-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > connector-xml-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > connector-jdbc-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > connector-text-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > > Thanks > > Sanjay > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Ramesh Reddy <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > wrote: > Sumanth, > > Welcome, thanks for your offer to contribute. We sincerely > appreciate any help. > > Currently Teiid does not mandate any coding guidelines, > however there are few things we do follow. I try to put > something simple put together very soon on WIKI. Usually we > use the default code formatting comes with Eclipse install. I > am thinking in the lines of > http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/JbpmCodingGuidelines > I will post to the dev-list in couple days, you are welcome to > contribute. > > The digest replying instructions are usually at the beginning > of the digest message. It is no more than selecting the "reply > all" and changing the subject line to the reflect the message > you are replying to with "Re:" in the front. Please make sure > that you include only sections of the message that you are > replying to. Since Teiid is low volume list, you can turn off > the digest otherwise. > > Now coming to project, if you have any ideas about this > tooling project, please let us know, we can discuss and make > them part of the project if we all agree. I will let Sanjay > answer if he needs any assistance with the work. Teiid has > plenty of other tasks if you would like to contribute, both > eclipse and non-eclipse related. > > If you only want to do "eclipse" work, > 1) we are in urgent need of Teiid integration with Eclipse DTP > (data tools platform). Basically Teiid needs to another > source, where somebody can connect to and issue queries > against. > 2) We can also use this in Phase 2 of CDK tooling project, > where we can deploy connector to and issue queries aginst. > 3)That could be expanded to tooling around the the "Connector > Metadata" feature, where some one could define multiple > sources in DTP and integrate them using Teiid. > > We have ton of work on the non-eclipse side too, lot of issues > are mentioned on the JIRA system. Submitting a patches is > excellent way to contribute, take a look if anything interests > you. > > Let me know what interests you, then we can plan and discuss > accordingly. > > Thanks again. > > Ramesh.. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sumanth P K" <sumanth.technical(a)gmail.com&gt; > To: email2sanjayc(a)gmail.com, "Ramesh Reddy" > <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > Cc: teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:17:15 AM GMT -06:00 > US/Canada Central > Subject: Teiid Eclipse Plugin > > > Sanjay / Ramesh, > > I have been following the discussion regarding the > requirements of Teiid CDK Plugin for Eclipse. I am interested > in taking part in the process. Let me know what pieces I can > start looking into and I can start the same. We may need to > come up with some preliminary standards that everybody should > follow (for example: naming conventions, exception handling to > name a few), so that inconsistencies are avoided. > > Ramesh - I know it has been quite a while since I had > communicated to you regarding this. I have been going through > the documents and have some idea on how things work. And I > guess I am now better placed to understand the terms involved. > To be honest the pace from my end had been slow, but I intend > to devote more time to this from now onwards. > > Also, I had subscribed to the Teiid message digest and hence > can any of you please let me know how to reply to a specific > mail in the digest. (I did not know how to do that and hence > had to send this email separately.). > > Thanks, > Sumanth. > > > _______________________________________________ > teiid-dev mailing list > teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev _______________________________________________ teiid-dev mailing list teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev

Hi Ramesh, Can you please let me know the jars would contain the following classes ? org.teiid.dqp.internal.datamgr.impl.FakeExecutionContextImpl com.metamatrix.core.util.UnitTestUtil com.metamatrix.query.metadata.QueryMetadataInterface com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataFacade com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataFactory com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataObject com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataStore As part of the CDK classpath, do I take all the jars from the cdk/lib directory or just use teiid-connector-sdk-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar and teiid-engine-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar & teiid-connector-api-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar ? Also teiid-connector-api-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar is in the teiid distribution package and not in cdk/lib directory of the cdk kit. This kind of defeats my plan to use the cdk kit as-is to register as a contributor sdk with version through extension point unless I manually copy it and make it a distribution. Using cdk kit as-is would facilitate choosing any version of cdk from more than one avaiable versions at runtime. Thanks Sanjay On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Ramesh Reddy <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: Sure, the directory is what prescribed by the Maven build process. Although there is no requirement for us to provide the build process in Maven this will help if one needs to move in that direction. Thanks Ramesh.. On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 16:38 -0500, Sanjay Chaudhuri wrote: > Hi Ramesh, > > Thanks. Will use connector-loopback to get started with along with the > same directory structure as the template. > > Sanjay > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Ramesh Reddy <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > wrote: > Sanjay, > > No, Teiid do not have tools currently to produce the > templates. Look in > the "connector-api" project's "org.teiid.connector.api" > package to see > the interface classes. Also, "org.teiid.connector.basic" > package > provides the base class implementations of these interfaces. > The > generated ones should extend the from basic and override > certain > methods. > > connector-loopback may be the simplest to see what are must > have classes > to generate to provide a simple "hello world" kind of > connector. > > connector-jdbc would be other extreme as to what we can do. > > The idea here somebody is trying to write these connectors, > and we are > providing a development environment for them. > > Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. > > Ramesh.. > > > On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 15:12 -0500, Sanjay Chaudhuri wrote: > > Hi Ramesh, > > > > I had gone briefly through the connector development guide; > did not > > seem to see any direct java/dos command to generate the > necessary > > template classes. It will be helpful if you can get me the > skeleton > > classes/interfaces, which will get generated though the > Eclipse > > wizard. > > > > Under the extension directories I looked at the sources for > some of > > these connector jars: > > connector-ldap-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > > connector-xml-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > > connector-jdbc-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > > connector-text-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > > > > Thanks > > > > Sanjay > > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Ramesh Reddy > <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > > wrote: > > Sumanth, > > > > Welcome, thanks for your offer to contribute. We > sincerely > > appreciate any help. > > > > Currently Teiid does not mandate any coding > guidelines, > > however there are few things we do follow. I try to > put > > something simple put together very soon on WIKI. > Usually we > > use the default code formatting comes with Eclipse > install. I > > am thinking in the lines of > > > http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/JbpmCodingGuidelines > > I will post to the dev-list in couple days, you are > welcome to > > contribute. > > > > The digest replying instructions are usually at the > beginning > > of the digest message. It is no more than selecting > the "reply > > all" and changing the subject line to the reflect > the message > > you are replying to with "Re:" in the front. Please > make sure > > that you include only sections of the message that > you are > > replying to. Since Teiid is low volume list, you can > turn off > > the digest otherwise. > > > > Now coming to project, if you have any ideas about > this > > tooling project, please let us know, we can discuss > and make > > them part of the project if we all agree. I will let > Sanjay > > answer if he needs any assistance with the work. > Teiid has > > plenty of other tasks if you would like to > contribute, both > > eclipse and non-eclipse related. > > > > If you only want to do "eclipse" work, > > 1) we are in urgent need of Teiid integration with > Eclipse DTP > > (data tools platform). Basically Teiid needs to > another > > source, where somebody can connect to and issue > queries > > against. > > 2) We can also use this in Phase 2 of CDK tooling > project, > > where we can deploy connector to and issue queries > aginst. > > 3)That could be expanded to tooling around the the > "Connector > > Metadata" feature, where some one could define > multiple > > sources in DTP and integrate them using Teiid. > > > > We have ton of work on the non-eclipse side too, lot > of issues > > are mentioned on the JIRA system. Submitting a > patches is > > excellent way to contribute, take a look if anything > interests > > you. > > > > Let me know what interests you, then we can plan and > discuss > > accordingly. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > Ramesh.. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sumanth P K" <sumanth.technical(a)gmail.com&gt; > > To: email2sanjayc(a)gmail.com, "Ramesh Reddy" > > <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > > Cc: teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:17:15 AM GMT > -06:00 > > US/Canada Central > > Subject: Teiid Eclipse Plugin > > > > > > Sanjay / Ramesh, > > > > I have been following the discussion regarding the > > requirements of Teiid CDK Plugin for Eclipse. I am > interested > > in taking part in the process. Let me know what > pieces I can > > start looking into and I can start the same. We may > need to > > come up with some preliminary standards that > everybody should > > follow (for example: naming conventions, exception > handling to > > name a few), so that inconsistencies are avoided. > > > > Ramesh - I know it has been quite a while since I > had > > communicated to you regarding this. I have been > going through > > the documents and have some idea on how things work. > And I > > guess I am now better placed to understand the terms > involved. > > To be honest the pace from my end had been slow, but > I intend > > to devote more time to this from now onwards. > > > > Also, I had subscribed to the Teiid message digest > and hence > > can any of you please let me know how to reply to a > specific > > mail in the digest. (I did not know how to do that > and hence > > had to send this email separately.). > > > > Thanks, > > Sumanth. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > teiid-dev mailing list > > teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > teiid-dev mailing list > teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev

Sanjay, The "teiid-connector-sdk" provides a "execution" environment for a connector during development of a connector. Based on the road map we may not want to use this at all, and directly use the Teiid runtime to test a connector. So, no to using cdk/lib. Yes, to use the "jars" directly. To start with you can make it as user's responsibility to add this. If you want to get this automated, then we can think of making this a "maven" based project, and just provide the dependencies in "pom.xml" and then they will be downloaded from JBoss maven repository automatically, as all these libraries will be available though maven repository. Also note "teiid-connector-sdk-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar" is only currently used for unit tests. The developer who is working with your plugin may not have the Teiid source at all, all he got is your plugin and a document and he needs to build and test connector. Thanks. Good questions keep em coming. Ramesh.. On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 02:24 -0500, Sanjay Chaudhuri wrote: > Hi Ramesh, > > Can you please let me know the jars would contain the following > classes ? > > org.teiid.dqp.internal.datamgr.impl.FakeExecutionContextImpl > com.metamatrix.core.util.UnitTestUtil > com.metamatrix.query.metadata.QueryMetadataInterface > com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataFacade > com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataFactory > com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataObject > com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataStore > > As part of the CDK classpath, do I take all the jars from the cdk/lib > directory or just use teiid-connector-sdk-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar and > teiid-engine-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar & > teiid-connector-api-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar ? Also > teiid-connector-api-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar is in the teiid distribution > package and not in cdk/lib directory of the cdk kit. This kind of > defeats my plan to use the cdk kit as-is to register as a contributor > sdk with version through extension point unless I manually copy it and > make it a distribution. Using cdk kit as-is would facilitate choosing > any version of cdk from more than one avaiable versions at runtime. > > Thanks > > Sanjay > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Ramesh Reddy <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > wrote: > Sure, the directory is what prescribed by the Maven build > process. > Although there is no requirement for us to provide the build > process in > Maven this will help if one needs to move in that direction. > > Thanks > > Ramesh.. > > > On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 16:38 -0500, Sanjay Chaudhuri wrote: > > Hi Ramesh, > > > > Thanks. Will use connector-loopback to get started with > along with the > > same directory structure as the template. > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Ramesh Reddy > <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > > wrote: > > Sanjay, > > > > No, Teiid do not have tools currently to produce the > > templates. Look in > > the "connector-api" project's > "org.teiid.connector.api" > > package to see > > the interface classes. Also, > "org.teiid.connector.basic" > > package > > provides the base class implementations of these > interfaces. > > The > > generated ones should extend the from basic and > override > > certain > > methods. > > > > connector-loopback may be the simplest to see what > are must > > have classes > > to generate to provide a simple "hello world" kind > of > > connector. > > > > connector-jdbc would be other extreme as to what we > can do. > > > > The idea here somebody is trying to write these > connectors, > > and we are > > providing a development environment for them. > > > > Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. > > > > Ramesh.. > > > > > > On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 15:12 -0500, Sanjay Chaudhuri > wrote: > > > Hi Ramesh, > > > > > > I had gone briefly through the connector > development guide; > > did not > > > seem to see any direct java/dos command to > generate the > > necessary > > > template classes. It will be helpful if you can > get me the > > skeleton > > > classes/interfaces, which will get generated > though the > > Eclipse > > > wizard. > > > > > > Under the extension directories I looked at the > sources for > > some of > > > these connector jars: > > > connector-ldap-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > > > connector-xml-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > > > connector-jdbc-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > > > connector-text-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Ramesh Reddy > > <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > > > wrote: > > > Sumanth, > > > > > > Welcome, thanks for your offer to > contribute. We > > sincerely > > > appreciate any help. > > > > > > Currently Teiid does not mandate any > coding > > guidelines, > > > however there are few things we do follow. > I try to > > put > > > something simple put together very soon on > WIKI. > > Usually we > > > use the default code formatting comes with > Eclipse > > install. I > > > am thinking in the lines of > > > > > > http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/JbpmCodingGuidelines > > > I will post to the dev-list in couple > days, you are > > welcome to > > > contribute. > > > > > > The digest replying instructions are > usually at the > > beginning > > > of the digest message. It is no more than > selecting > > the "reply > > > all" and changing the subject line to the > reflect > > the message > > > you are replying to with "Re:" in the > front. Please > > make sure > > > that you include only sections of the > message that > > you are > > > replying to. Since Teiid is low volume > list, you can > > turn off > > > the digest otherwise. > > > > > > Now coming to project, if you have any > ideas about > > this > > > tooling project, please let us know, we > can discuss > > and make > > > them part of the project if we all agree. > I will let > > Sanjay > > > answer if he needs any assistance with the > work. > > Teiid has > > > plenty of other tasks if you would like to > > contribute, both > > > eclipse and non-eclipse related. > > > > > > If you only want to do "eclipse" work, > > > 1) we are in urgent need of Teiid > integration with > > Eclipse DTP > > > (data tools platform). Basically Teiid > needs to > > another > > > source, where somebody can connect to and > issue > > queries > > > against. > > > 2) We can also use this in Phase 2 of CDK > tooling > > project, > > > where we can deploy connector to and issue > queries > > aginst. > > > 3)That could be expanded to tooling around > the the > > "Connector > > > Metadata" feature, where some one could > define > > multiple > > > sources in DTP and integrate them using > Teiid. > > > > > > We have ton of work on the non-eclipse > side too, lot > > of issues > > > are mentioned on the JIRA system. > Submitting a > > patches is > > > excellent way to contribute, take a look > if anything > > interests > > > you. > > > > > > Let me know what interests you, then we > can plan and > > discuss > > > accordingly. > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > Ramesh.. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Sumanth P K" > <sumanth.technical(a)gmail.com&gt; > > > To: email2sanjayc(a)gmail.com, "Ramesh > Reddy" > > > <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > > > Cc: teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:17:15 AM > GMT > > -06:00 > > > US/Canada Central > > > Subject: Teiid Eclipse Plugin > > > > > > > > > Sanjay / Ramesh, > > > > > > I have been following the discussion > regarding the > > > requirements of Teiid CDK Plugin for > Eclipse. I am > > interested > > > in taking part in the process. Let me know > what > > pieces I can > > > start looking into and I can start the > same. We may > > need to > > > come up with some preliminary standards > that > > everybody should > > > follow (for example: naming conventions, > exception > > handling to > > > name a few), so that inconsistencies are > avoided. > > > > > > Ramesh - I know it has been quite a while > since I > > had > > > communicated to you regarding this. I have > been > > going through > > > the documents and have some idea on how > things work. > > And I > > > guess I am now better placed to understand > the terms > > involved. > > > To be honest the pace from my end had been > slow, but > > I intend > > > to devote more time to this from now > onwards. > > > > > > Also, I had subscribed to the Teiid > message digest > > and hence > > > can any of you please let me know how to > reply to a > > specific > > > mail in the digest. (I did not know how to > do that > > and hence > > > had to send this email separately.). > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sumanth. > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > teiid-dev mailing list > > > teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > > > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > teiid-dev mailing list > > teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev > > >

Is there anyway we can not have the connector developer's plug-in depend on teiid-engine? It seems that such a dependency wouldn't adhere to the connector-api itself. In my opinion the only thing a connector should be dependent on is the API.

It would be nice however to offer a unit test package base to the connector developer so that their connector could be easily integrated with a connector test framework.

From deployment/testing perspective, why not integrate with the designer plugin for deployment and execution?

Hi Ramesh, Yes I understand. I was trying to compile both the jdbc and the loo-back connection, and was getting into issues while compiling in my workspace. What jars should be used by the end-user to develop any connector by an user from compilation standpoint ? I was using *teiid-6.2.0-M3-dist *and *teiid-6.2.0-M3-cdk-dist *for my tests. It is posible in eclipse to have the product level classpaths injected automatically in the environment through the plugins. (Eg. Right clicking any Java project, click *Properties*; click *Add Lbrary* and you would see libraries JUNIT, GWT, JEE libraries injected by the relevant plugins. I was thinking in similar lines, so users do not need to search for required libraries and have those added manually and this would also facilitate quick-fix operation, etc along with be able to maintain different jars version across different cdk versions. The generated template will thus be self sufficient and be erady for development. Thanks Sanjay On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Ramesh Reddy <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Sanjay, > > The "teiid-connector-sdk" provides a "execution" environment for a > connector during development of a connector. Based on the road map we > may not want to use this at all, and directly use the Teiid runtime to > test a connector. > > So, no to using cdk/lib. Yes, to use the "jars" directly. To start with > you can make it as user's responsibility to add this. If you want to get > this automated, then we can think of making this a "maven" based > project, and just provide the dependencies in "pom.xml" and then they > will be downloaded from JBoss maven repository automatically, as all > these libraries will be available though maven repository. > > Also note "teiid-connector-sdk-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar" is only currently > used for unit tests. The developer who is working with your plugin may > not have the Teiid source at all, all he got is your plugin and a > document and he needs to build and test connector. > > Thanks. Good questions keep em coming. > > Ramesh.. > > On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 02:24 -0500, Sanjay Chaudhuri wrote: > > Hi Ramesh, > > > > Can you please let me know the jars would contain the following > > classes ? > > > > org.teiid.dqp.internal.datamgr.impl.FakeExecutionContextImpl > > com.metamatrix.core.util.UnitTestUtil > > com.metamatrix.query.metadata.QueryMetadataInterface > > com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataFacade > > com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataFactory > > com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataObject > > com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataStore > > > > As part of the CDK classpath, do I take all the jars from the cdk/lib > > directory or just use teiid-connector-sdk-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar and > > teiid-engine-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar & > > teiid-connector-api-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar ? Also > > teiid-connector-api-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar is in the teiid distribution > > package and not in cdk/lib directory of the cdk kit. This kind of > > defeats my plan to use the cdk kit as-is to register as a contributor > > sdk with version through extension point unless I manually copy it and > > make it a distribution. Using cdk kit as-is would facilitate choosing > > any version of cdk from more than one avaiable versions at runtime. > > > > Thanks > > > > Sanjay > > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Ramesh Reddy <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > > wrote: > > Sure, the directory is what prescribed by the Maven build > > process. > > Although there is no requirement for us to provide the build > > process in > > Maven this will help if one needs to move in that direction. > > > > Thanks > > > > Ramesh.. > > > > > > On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 16:38 -0500, Sanjay Chaudhuri wrote: > > > Hi Ramesh, > > > > > > Thanks. Will use connector-loopback to get started with > > along with the > > > same directory structure as the template. > > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Ramesh Reddy > > <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > > > wrote: > > > Sanjay, > > > > > > No, Teiid do not have tools currently to produce the > > > templates. Look in > > > the "connector-api" project's > > "org.teiid.connector.api" > > > package to see > > > the interface classes. Also, > > "org.teiid.connector.basic" > > > package > > > provides the base class implementations of these > > interfaces. > > > The > > > generated ones should extend the from basic and > > override > > > certain > > > methods. > > > > > > connector-loopback may be the simplest to see what > > are must > > > have classes > > > to generate to provide a simple "hello world" kind > > of > > > connector. > > > > > > connector-jdbc would be other extreme as to what we > > can do. > > > > > > The idea here somebody is trying to write these > > connectors, > > > and we are > > > providing a development environment for them. > > > > > > Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. > > > > > > Ramesh.. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 15:12 -0500, Sanjay Chaudhuri > > wrote: > > > > Hi Ramesh, > > > > > > > > I had gone briefly through the connector > > development guide; > > > did not > > > > seem to see any direct java/dos command to > > generate the > > > necessary > > > > template classes. It will be helpful if you can > > get me the > > > skeleton > > > > classes/interfaces, which will get generated > > though the > > > Eclipse > > > > wizard. > > > > > > > > Under the extension directories I looked at the > > sources for > > > some of > > > > these connector jars: > > > > connector-ldap-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > > > > connector-xml-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > > > > connector-jdbc-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > > > > connector-text-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Ramesh Reddy > > > <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > > > > wrote: > > > > Sumanth, > > > > > > > > Welcome, thanks for your offer to > > contribute. We > > > sincerely > > > > appreciate any help. > > > > > > > > Currently Teiid does not mandate any > > coding > > > guidelines, > > > > however there are few things we do follow. > > I try to > > > put > > > > something simple put together very soon on > > WIKI. > > > Usually we > > > > use the default code formatting comes with > > Eclipse > > > install. I > > > > am thinking in the lines of > > > > > > > > > http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/JbpmCodingGuidelines > > > > I will post to the dev-list in couple > > days, you are > > > welcome to > > > > contribute. > > > > > > > > The digest replying instructions are > > usually at the > > > beginning > > > > of the digest message. It is no more than > > selecting > > > the "reply > > > > all" and changing the subject line to the > > reflect > > > the message > > > > you are replying to with "Re:" in the > > front. Please > > > make sure > > > > that you include only sections of the > > message that > > > you are > > > > replying to. Since Teiid is low volume > > list, you can > > > turn off > > > > the digest otherwise. > > > > > > > > Now coming to project, if you have any > > ideas about > > > this > > > > tooling project, please let us know, we > > can discuss > > > and make > > > > them part of the project if we all agree. > > I will let > > > Sanjay > > > > answer if he needs any assistance with the > > work. > > > Teiid has > > > > plenty of other tasks if you would like to > > > contribute, both > > > > eclipse and non-eclipse related. > > > > > > > > If you only want to do "eclipse" work, > > > > 1) we are in urgent need of Teiid > > integration with > > > Eclipse DTP > > > > (data tools platform). Basically Teiid > > needs to > > > another > > > > source, where somebody can connect to and > > issue > > > queries > > > > against. > > > > 2) We can also use this in Phase 2 of CDK > > tooling > > > project, > > > > where we can deploy connector to and issue > > queries > > > aginst. > > > > 3)That could be expanded to tooling around > > the the > > > "Connector > > > > Metadata" feature, where some one could > > define > > > multiple > > > > sources in DTP and integrate them using > > Teiid. > > > > > > > > We have ton of work on the non-eclipse > > side too, lot > > > of issues > > > > are mentioned on the JIRA system. > > Submitting a > > > patches is > > > > excellent way to contribute, take a look > > if anything > > > interests > > > > you. > > > > > > > > Let me know what interests you, then we > > can plan and > > > discuss > > > > accordingly. > > > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > > > Ramesh.. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Sumanth P K" > > <sumanth.technical(a)gmail.com&gt; > > > > To: email2sanjayc(a)gmail.com, "Ramesh > > Reddy" > > > > <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; > > > > Cc: teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:17:15 AM > > GMT > > > -06:00 > > > > US/Canada Central > > > > Subject: Teiid Eclipse Plugin > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay / Ramesh, > > > > > > > > I have been following the discussion > > regarding the > > > > requirements of Teiid CDK Plugin for > > Eclipse. I am > > > interested > > > > in taking part in the process. Let me know > > what > > > pieces I can > > > > start looking into and I can start the > > same. We may > > > need to > > > > come up with some preliminary standards > > that > > > everybody should > > > > follow (for example: naming conventions, > > exception > > > handling to > > > > name a few), so that inconsistencies are > > avoided. > > > > > > > > Ramesh - I know it has been quite a while > > since I > > > had > > > > communicated to you regarding this. I have > > been > > > going through > > > > the documents and have some idea on how > > things work. > > > And I > > > > guess I am now better placed to understand > > the terms > > > involved. > > > > To be honest the pace from my end had been > > slow, but > > > I intend > > > > to devote more time to this from now > > onwards. > > > > > > > > Also, I had subscribed to the Teiid > > message digest > > > and hence > > > > can any of you please let me know how to > > reply to a > > > specific > > > > mail in the digest. (I did not know how to > > do that > > > and hence > > > > had to send this email separately.). > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sumanth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > teiid-dev mailing list > > > > teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > teiid-dev mailing list > > > teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ teiid-dev mailing list teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev

Sanjay / Ramesh, With respect to the task to have the product level classpath injected automatically, I was planning to have a new container (similar to JRE, JUNIT). This would be configured something like: <DIR_LOCATION>/lib (with the *lib* being implicit). The idea here is to have the user the ability to modify the <DIR_LOCATION> to any location - not necessarily within the plugins directory of eclipse - and thus having the ability to point to any version that he / she chooses. All the jars under the *lib* directory under the <DIR_LOCATION> would be picked up by default. Let me know if any changes need to be done to this approach. Thanks, Sumanth. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Sanjay Chaudhuri <email2sanjayc(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Hi Ramesh, > > Yes I understand. I was trying to compile both the jdbc and the loo-back > connection, and was getting into issues while compiling in my workspace. > What jars should be used by the end-user to develop any connector by an user > from compilation standpoint ? I was using *teiid-6.2.0-M3-dist *and *teiid-6.2.0-M3-cdk-dist > *for my tests. > > It is posible in eclipse to have the product level classpaths injected > automatically in the environment through the plugins. (Eg. Right clicking > any Java project, click *Properties*; click *Add Lbrary* and you would > see libraries JUNIT, GWT, JEE libraries injected by the relevant plugins. I > was thinking in similar lines, so users do not need to search for required > libraries and have those added manually and this would also facilitate > quick-fix operation, etc along with be able to maintain different jars > version across different cdk versions. The generated template will thus be > self sufficient and be erady for development. > > Thanks > > Sanjay > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Ramesh Reddy <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: > >> Sanjay, >> >> The "teiid-connector-sdk" provides a "execution" environment for a >> connector during development of a connector. Based on the road map we >> may not want to use this at all, and directly use the Teiid runtime to >> test a connector. >> >> So, no to using cdk/lib. Yes, to use the "jars" directly. To start with >> you can make it as user's responsibility to add this. If you want to get >> this automated, then we can think of making this a "maven" based >> project, and just provide the dependencies in "pom.xml" and then they >> will be downloaded from JBoss maven repository automatically, as all >> these libraries will be available though maven repository. >> >> Also note "teiid-connector-sdk-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar" is only currently >> used for unit tests. The developer who is working with your plugin may >> not have the Teiid source at all, all he got is your plugin and a >> document and he needs to build and test connector. >> >> Thanks. Good questions keep em coming. >> >> Ramesh.. >> >> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 02:24 -0500, Sanjay Chaudhuri wrote: >> > Hi Ramesh, >> > >> > Can you please let me know the jars would contain the following >> > classes ? >> > >> > org.teiid.dqp.internal.datamgr.impl.FakeExecutionContextImpl >> > com.metamatrix.core.util.UnitTestUtil >> > com.metamatrix.query.metadata.QueryMetadataInterface >> > com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataFacade >> > com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataFactory >> > com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataObject >> > com.metamatrix.query.unittest.FakeMetadataStore >> > >> > As part of the CDK classpath, do I take all the jars from the cdk/lib >> > directory or just use teiid-connector-sdk-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar and >> > teiid-engine-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar & >> > teiid-connector-api-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar ? Also >> > teiid-connector-api-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar is in the teiid distribution >> > package and not in cdk/lib directory of the cdk kit. This kind of >> > defeats my plan to use the cdk kit as-is to register as a contributor >> > sdk with version through extension point unless I manually copy it and >> > make it a distribution. Using cdk kit as-is would facilitate choosing >> > any version of cdk from more than one avaiable versions at runtime. >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Sanjay >> > >> > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Ramesh Reddy <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; >> > wrote: >> > Sure, the directory is what prescribed by the Maven build >> > process. >> > Although there is no requirement for us to provide the build >> > process in >> > Maven this will help if one needs to move in that direction. >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> > Ramesh.. >> > >> > >> > On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 16:38 -0500, Sanjay Chaudhuri wrote: >> > > Hi Ramesh, >> > > >> > > Thanks. Will use connector-loopback to get started with >> > along with the >> > > same directory structure as the template. >> > > >> > > Sanjay >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Ramesh Reddy >> > <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; >> > > wrote: >> > > Sanjay, >> > > >> > > No, Teiid do not have tools currently to produce the >> > > templates. Look in >> > > the "connector-api" project's >> > "org.teiid.connector.api" >> > > package to see >> > > the interface classes. Also, >> > "org.teiid.connector.basic" >> > > package >> > > provides the base class implementations of these >> > interfaces. >> > > The >> > > generated ones should extend the from basic and >> > override >> > > certain >> > > methods. >> > > >> > > connector-loopback may be the simplest to see what >> > are must >> > > have classes >> > > to generate to provide a simple "hello world" kind >> > of >> > > connector. >> > > >> > > connector-jdbc would be other extreme as to what we >> > can do. >> > > >> > > The idea here somebody is trying to write these >> > connectors, >> > > and we are >> > > providing a development environment for them. >> > > >> > > Let me know if you have any questions. Thank you. >> > > >> > > Ramesh.. >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 15:12 -0500, Sanjay Chaudhuri >> > wrote: >> > > > Hi Ramesh, >> > > > >> > > > I had gone briefly through the connector >> > development guide; >> > > did not >> > > > seem to see any direct java/dos command to >> > generate the >> > > necessary >> > > > template classes. It will be helpful if you can >> > get me the >> > > skeleton >> > > > classes/interfaces, which will get generated >> > though the >> > > Eclipse >> > > > wizard. >> > > > >> > > > Under the extension directories I looked at the >> > sources for >> > > some of >> > > > these connector jars: >> > > > connector-ldap-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar >> > > > connector-xml-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar >> > > > connector-jdbc-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar >> > > > connector-text-6.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar >> > > > >> > > > Thanks >> > > > >> > > > Sanjay >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Ramesh Reddy >> > > <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; >> > > > wrote: >> > > > Sumanth, >> > > > >> > > > Welcome, thanks for your offer to >> > contribute. We >> > > sincerely >> > > > appreciate any help. >> > > > >> > > > Currently Teiid does not mandate any >> > coding >> > > guidelines, >> > > > however there are few things we do follow. >> > I try to >> > > put >> > > > something simple put together very soon on >> > WIKI. >> > > Usually we >> > > > use the default code formatting comes with >> > Eclipse >> > > install. I >> > > > am thinking in the lines of >> > > > >> > > >> > http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/JbpmCodingGuidelines >> > > > I will post to the dev-list in couple >> > days, you are >> > > welcome to >> > > > contribute. >> > > > >> > > > The digest replying instructions are >> > usually at the >> > > beginning >> > > > of the digest message. It is no more than >> > selecting >> > > the "reply >> > > > all" and changing the subject line to the >> > reflect >> > > the message >> > > > you are replying to with "Re:" in the >> > front. Please >> > > make sure >> > > > that you include only sections of the >> > message that >> > > you are >> > > > replying to. Since Teiid is low volume >> > list, you can >> > > turn off >> > > > the digest otherwise. >> > > > >> > > > Now coming to project, if you have any >> > ideas about >> > > this >> > > > tooling project, please let us know, we >> > can discuss >> > > and make >> > > > them part of the project if we all agree. >> > I will let >> > > Sanjay >> > > > answer if he needs any assistance with the >> > work. >> > > Teiid has >> > > > plenty of other tasks if you would like to >> > > contribute, both >> > > > eclipse and non-eclipse related. >> > > > >> > > > If you only want to do "eclipse" work, >> > > > 1) we are in urgent need of Teiid >> > integration with >> > > Eclipse DTP >> > > > (data tools platform). Basically Teiid >> > needs to >> > > another >> > > > source, where somebody can connect to and >> > issue >> > > queries >> > > > against. >> > > > 2) We can also use this in Phase 2 of CDK >> > tooling >> > > project, >> > > > where we can deploy connector to and issue >> > queries >> > > aginst. >> > > > 3)That could be expanded to tooling around >> > the the >> > > "Connector >> > > > Metadata" feature, where some one could >> > define >> > > multiple >> > > > sources in DTP and integrate them using >> > Teiid. >> > > > >> > > > We have ton of work on the non-eclipse >> > side too, lot >> > > of issues >> > > > are mentioned on the JIRA system. >> > Submitting a >> > > patches is >> > > > excellent way to contribute, take a look >> > if anything >> > > interests >> > > > you. >> > > > >> > > > Let me know what interests you, then we >> > can plan and >> > > discuss >> > > > accordingly. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks again. >> > > > >> > > > Ramesh.. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: "Sumanth P K" >> > <sumanth.technical(a)gmail.com&gt; >> > > > To: email2sanjayc(a)gmail.com, "Ramesh >> > Reddy" >> > > > <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; >> > > > Cc: teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > > > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 12:17:15 AM >> > GMT >> > > -06:00 >> > > > US/Canada Central >> > > > Subject: Teiid Eclipse Plugin >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Sanjay / Ramesh, >> > > > >> > > > I have been following the discussion >> > regarding the >> > > > requirements of Teiid CDK Plugin for >> > Eclipse. I am >> > > interested >> > > > in taking part in the process. Let me know >> > what >> > > pieces I can >> > > > start looking into and I can start the >> > same. We may >> > > need to >> > > > come up with some preliminary standards >> > that >> > > everybody should >> > > > follow (for example: naming conventions, >> > exception >> > > handling to >> > > > name a few), so that inconsistencies are >> > avoided. >> > > > >> > > > Ramesh - I know it has been quite a while >> > since I >> > > had >> > > > communicated to you regarding this. I have >> > been >> > > going through >> > > > the documents and have some idea on how >> > things work. >> > > And I >> > > > guess I am now better placed to understand >> > the terms >> > > involved. >> > > > To be honest the pace from my end had been >> > slow, but >> > > I intend >> > > > to devote more time to this from now >> > onwards. >> > > > >> > > > Also, I had subscribed to the Teiid >> > message digest >> > > and hence >> > > > can any of you please let me know how to >> > reply to a >> > > specific >> > > > mail in the digest. (I did not know how to >> > do that >> > > and hence >> > > > had to send this email separately.). >> > > > >> > > > Thanks, >> > > > Sumanth. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > teiid-dev mailing list >> > > > teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > > >> > > >> > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > teiid-dev mailing list >> > > teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > teiid-dev mailing list > teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev > >

I was rather thinking it to be CDK plugin based injection; rather than specifying a separate directory separately because any CDK version potentially will have an updated version of the jars. The adavantage is, when a particular CDK plugin is registered (which would also mean different versions of CDK can be tested out-of-box), it will automatically come with the jars as part of injection; so the users does not need to take care about the right version everytime. Similar usecases can be seen in GWT and JUnit plugins.

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 14:38 -0500, Sanjay Chaudhuri wrote: > >> Sanjay: Eclipse plugin is really helpless other than generating > templates without the necessary jars in the classpath, so I guess > plugin's dependency on the jars is kind of mandatory for development. > Even if it is not made implicit, users manually have to do so anyhow; > so I was thinking of having it integrated to begin with. And as > pointed out above, CDK-sdk will not depend on eclipse. It will be a > matter of build process to generate the eclipse wrapper plugin as part > of the cdk-dist build. This is the bundled approach I mentioned before. That is fine for now, as we go on to execution phases you will have other options to choose from to have the out of the box experience which is important. _______________________________________________ teiid-dev mailing list teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev

>> I guess what you meant to say here is that the CDK plugins would

Sumanth, As part of the generator wizard, I am working on something similar to GWT. I didnot quite understand differences between (A) and (B), because other than different screen layouts, both GWT and JUnit wizards comes with a default one and allow the users to change to a different one. On Junit it's a radio button and on GWT it's a drop-down. I guess GWT's strategy is better when you have more available versions to choose from. The core plugin I am developing will be responsible for: 1. Register available CDKs 2. Template Project generator You may work on the cdk wrapper plugin which injects the classpath to the environment (differenciator should probably be the version number; may something like: *Teiid CDK [1.6] *) and also uses extension point to register itself to the core plugin. I have not yet come up with a schema; feel free to do it incase you want to and we can discuss. I guess the important functions these CDK plugins should support are: *String getName(); String getVersion(); String getDescription(); IPath getInstallationPath(); IClasspathEntry[] getClasspathEntries();* Thanks Sanjay On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Sumanth P K <sumanth.technical(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote: > Sanjay / Ramesh, > I just wanted to summarize what had been discussed so as to make sure that > I have understood properly: > > 1) We would have the CDK plugin have the necessary jars within it > (possibly till we start phase 2, as specified in the discussions, when we > will have more options to choose from). > 2) The plugin would register a container similar to JUnit (it would have > all the jars bundled within the plugin available by default.). > > If we are to enable the support of multiple versions of Connector-Api (and > hence multiple CDK plugins) at the same time: > A) We can have a container (similar to JRE, JUnit, GWT) defined for each > version and to differentiate between them have the container version > appended to the name of the container (something like TeiidCDK6.1, > TeiidCDK6.2 etc). > B) Or have it something like JUnit where by default one version is > selected and give the user the option to change it to another version. > > The point to note here is that in either case the paths would be fixed > (i.e. within the corresponding plugins). The difference is in the number of > container entries available for the user (and the way the screens would > look). > > Let me know the direction to proceed. > > Thanks, > Sumanth. > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Ramesh Reddy <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt;wrote: > >> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 14:38 -0500, Sanjay Chaudhuri wrote: >> > >> Sanjay: Eclipse plugin is really helpless other than generating >> > templates without the necessary jars in the classpath, so I guess >> > plugin's dependency on the jars is kind of mandatory for development. >> > Even if it is not made implicit, users manually have to do so anyhow; >> > so I was thinking of having it integrated to begin with. And as >> > pointed out above, CDK-sdk will not depend on eclipse. It will be a >> > matter of build process to generate the eclipse wrapper plugin as part >> > of the cdk-dist build. >> This is the bundled approach I mentioned before. That is fine for now, >> as we go on to execution phases you will have other options to choose >> from to have the out of the box experience which is important. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> teiid-dev mailing list >> teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev >> > >