10:06 a.m.
Just a few moments ago I accidentally sent out an email to this list
that probably seemed a bit strange. I guess I should clarify what's
going on.
Here's the news: next month (after we release JBoss DNA 0.7) we plan
to rename the JBoss DNA project to "ModeShape". Everything else will
remain the same - the same software, the same community, the same
charter, the same awesomeness.
Renaming or rebranding is always a difficult decision, and the
benefits have to outweigh the disadvantages. So, why are we doing
this? The primary reason is that we want to better distinguish
ourselves from the JBoss line of products. Having "JBoss" in the name
is often confusing to people, because they assume it's a supported
JBoss product, or they assume it is related to the JBoss Application
Server project. It's confusing to our users, and it's confusing to
JBoss customers. Having a new name will allow us to build our own
brand and ecosystem.
There are disadvantages, of course. Renaming can be disruptive and
confusing. Some people may think it's a fork, or that the old project
has died. Neither of these is true in our case, and we'll do our best
to make it very clear. I also hope to make the transition as smooth
as possible for all of you, despite the rough start this morning.
Here are some Q&A:
Why the name "ModeShape"? We actually had a lot of requirements for
the new name. It had to be acceptable from a legal perspective (re
prior use, trademarks, etc.), it had to be searchable (or allow us to
fairly easily get our pages in the results), we wanted the .org
domain, we need to be able to register accounts on public/social
systems (e.g., Twitter, GitHub, Ohloh, etc.). These were just a few
of the big requirements, but you get the picture.
Do we have to change? Well, all projects with "JBoss" in the name are
being asked to rename, and many already have. We're getting close to
1.0, and renaming JBoss DNA before 1.0 seemed a much better
alternative than after 1.0.
Why not use "DNA"? That was our first choice, but it was determined
that we could not use the name "DNA" on its own.
When will we officially announce the change? I had hoped to make as
much noise right after the 0.7 release, which is coming later this
month.
Can we or should we tell others yet? Unfortunately we don't yet have
all the infrastructure in place, and we'll be doing that over the next
few weeks. So I'd prefer to share this news after we have more of a
web presence.
What does "ModeShape" mean? The term "mode shape" (two words) is
commonly used in structural dynamics to describe the shape of a
structure that is vibrating at a natural frequency. Every structure
has multiple natural frequencies and mode shapes, and knowing what
they are is critical to understanding the dynamic behavior.
Is the license going to change? No.
If I'm a committer on JBoss DNA, will I be a committer on ModeShape?
Yes!
Will the packages be renamed? Yes, we own modeshape.org, and we'll
want to change the package names (and a few class names) to reflect
this. I plan on issuing a migration guide to help users transition.
It does help that most people should be using the JCR API for most of
their code.
What will happen to the JBoss DNA releases and project site? All the
existing JBoss DNA releases will be housed (unmodified) on the new
site. And, based on a lot of recommendations I've received, we'll
probably set up http://www.jboss.org/dna to automatically redirect to
http://www.modeshape.org
.
Are the other uses of "ModeShape" out there us? Yes, modeshape.org,
http://twitter.com/modeshape
, http://modeshape.wordpress.com, and http://github.com/modeshape are
all ours. (BTW, I grabbed the GitHub account even though we will
continue to use SVN.)
Obviously much more information will follow over the next few weeks.
In the meantime, please let me know if you have any questions or
concerns.
Best regards,
Randall
5:04 a.m.
Just a quick question:
Will JIRA and SVN will be hosted under/moved to the new domain as well ?
./Vijay
On 16-Nov-2009, at 5:06 PM, Randall Hauch wrote:
Just a few moments ago I accidentally sent out an email to this list
that probably seemed a bit strange. I guess I should clarify what's going on.
Here's the news: next month (after we release JBoss DNA 0.7) we plan to rename the
JBoss DNA project to "ModeShape". Everything else will remain the same - the
same software, the same community, the same charter, the same awesomeness.
Renaming or rebranding is always a difficult decision, and the benefits have to outweigh
the disadvantages. So, why are we doing this? The primary reason is that we want to
better distinguish ourselves from the JBoss line of products. Having "JBoss" in
the name is often confusing to people, because they assume it's a supported JBoss
product, or they assume it is related to the JBoss Application Server project. It's
confusing to our users, and it's confusing to JBoss customers. Having a new name will
allow us to build our own brand and ecosystem.
There are disadvantages, of course. Renaming can be disruptive and confusing. Some
people may think it's a fork, or that the old project has died. Neither of these is
true in our case, and we'll do our best to make it very clear. I also hope to make
the transition as smooth as possible for all of you, despite the rough start this
morning.
Here are some Q&A:
• Why the name "ModeShape"? We actually had a lot of requirements for the new
name. It had to be acceptable from a legal perspective (re prior use, trademarks, etc.),
it had to be searchable (or allow us to fairly easily get our pages in the results), we
wanted the .org domain, we need to be able to register accounts on public/social systems
(e.g., Twitter, GitHub, Ohloh, etc.). These were just a few of the big requirements, but
you get the picture.
• Do we have to change? Well, all projects with "JBoss" in the name are being
asked to rename, and many already have. We're getting close to 1.0, and renaming
JBoss DNA before 1.0 seemed a much better alternative than after 1.0.
• Why not use "DNA"? That was our first choice, but it was determined that we
could not use the name "DNA" on its own.
• When will we officially announce the change? I had hoped to make as much noise right
after the 0.7 release, which is coming later this month.
• Can we or should we tell others yet? Unfortunately we don't yet have all the
infrastructure in place, and we'll be doing that over the next few weeks. So I'd
prefer to share this news after we have more of a web presence.
• What does "ModeShape" mean? The term "mode shape" (two words) is
commonly used in structural dynamics to describe the shape of a structure that is
vibrating at a natural frequency. Every structure has multiple natural frequencies and
mode shapes, and knowing what they are is critical to understanding the dynamic behavior.
• Is the license going to change? No.
• If I'm a committer on JBoss DNA, will I be a committer on ModeShape? Yes!
• Will the packages be renamed? Yes, we own modeshape.org, and we'll want to change
the package names (and a few class names) to reflect this. I plan on issuing a migration
guide to help users transition. It does help that most people should be using the JCR API
for most of their code.
• What will happen to the JBoss DNA releases and project site? All the existing JBoss
DNA releases will be housed (unmodified) on the new site. And, based on a lot of
recommendations I've received, we'll probably set up http://www.jboss.org/dna to
automatically redirect to http://www.modeshape.org.
• Are the other uses of "ModeShape" out there us? Yes, modeshape.org,
http://twitter.com/modeshape, http://modeshape.wordpress.com, and
http://github.com/modeshape are all ours. (BTW, I grabbed the GitHub account even though
we will continue to use SVN.)
Obviously much more information will follow over the next few weeks. In the meantime,
please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Best regards,
Randall
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9:05 a.m.
We'll continue to use the JIRA and SVN hosted by JBoss.org, though we'll have a
new SVN repository and new JIRA project. And for a while, http://www.modeshape.org will
likely be just a redirect to http://www.jboss.org/modeshape (which is typical of other
projects, like http://www.infinispan.org).
After we release 0.7, we'll move any open DNA issues into the ModeShape JIRA. In
fact, I'm considering moving all of the DNA issues, which means if you go to DNA-123,
you'd get automatically redirected to MODE-123. That way all the issues will be in
the ModeShape JIRA, but any references to the DNA issues would be handled nicely.
I'm also considering importing the DNA history into the ModeShape SVN. Again, that
way the ModeShape SVN contains the entire history.
Anybody have any thoughts on these?
Best regards,
Randall
On Nov 20, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Vijay Kiran wrote:
Just a quick question:
Will JIRA and SVN will be hosted under/moved to the new domain as well ?
./Vijay
On 16-Nov-2009, at 5:06 PM, Randall Hauch wrote:
> Just a few moments ago I accidentally sent out an email to this list that probably
seemed a bit strange. I guess I should clarify what's going on.
>
> Here's the news: next month (after we release JBoss DNA 0.7) we plan to rename
the JBoss DNA project to "ModeShape". Everything else will remain the same -
the same software, the same community, the same charter, the same awesomeness.
>
> Renaming or rebranding is always a difficult decision, and the benefits have to
outweigh the disadvantages. So, why are we doing this? The primary reason is that we
want to better distinguish ourselves from the JBoss line of products. Having
"JBoss" in the name is often confusing to people, because they assume it's a
supported JBoss product, or they assume it is related to the JBoss Application Server
project. It's confusing to our users, and it's confusing to JBoss customers.
Having a new name will allow us to build our own brand and ecosystem.
>
> There are disadvantages, of course. Renaming can be disruptive and confusing. Some
people may think it's a fork, or that the old project has died. Neither of these is
true in our case, and we'll do our best to make it very clear. I also hope to make
the transition as smooth as possible for all of you, despite the rough start this
morning.
>
> Here are some Q&A:
> • Why the name "ModeShape"? We actually had a lot of requirements for the
new name. It had to be acceptable from a legal perspective (re prior use, trademarks,
etc.), it had to be searchable (or allow us to fairly easily get our pages in the
results), we wanted the .org domain, we need to be able to register accounts on
public/social systems (e.g., Twitter, GitHub, Ohloh, etc.). These were just a few of the
big requirements, but you get the picture.
> • Do we have to change? Well, all projects with "JBoss" in the name are
being asked to rename, and many already have. We're getting close to 1.0, and
renaming JBoss DNA before 1.0 seemed a much better alternative than after 1.0.
> • Why not use "DNA"? That was our first choice, but it was determined
that we could not use the name "DNA" on its own.
> • When will we officially announce the change? I had hoped to make as much noise
right after the 0.7 release, which is coming later this month.
> • Can we or should we tell others yet? Unfortunately we don't yet have all the
infrastructure in place, and we'll be doing that over the next few weeks. So I'd
prefer to share this news after we have more of a web presence.
> • What does "ModeShape" mean? The term "mode shape" (two words)
is commonly used in structural dynamics to describe the shape of a structure that is
vibrating at a natural frequency. Every structure has multiple natural frequencies and
mode shapes, and knowing what they are is critical to understanding the dynamic behavior.
> • Is the license going to change? No.
> • If I'm a committer on JBoss DNA, will I be a committer on ModeShape? Yes!
> • Will the packages be renamed? Yes, we own modeshape.org, and we'll want to
change the package names (and a few class names) to reflect this. I plan on issuing a
migration guide to help users transition. It does help that most people should be using
the JCR API for most of their code.
> • What will happen to the JBoss DNA releases and project site? All the existing
JBoss DNA releases will be housed (unmodified) on the new site. And, based on a lot of
recommendations I've received, we'll probably set up http://www.jboss.org/dna to
automatically redirect to http://www.modeshape.org.
> • Are the other uses of "ModeShape" out there us? Yes, modeshape.org,
http://twitter.com/modeshape, http://modeshape.wordpress.com, and
http://github.com/modeshape are all ours. (BTW, I grabbed the GitHub account even though
we will continue to use SVN.)
>
> Obviously much more information will follow over the next few weeks. In the
meantime, please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Randall
>
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