"emuckenhuber" wrote : This is what i'd like to see in a separate embedded project, as it might be easier to keep this backward compatible. So i'm not much concerned about this affecting AS - it's rather the other way around. As currently set up, this won't affect AS as AS doesn't depend upon it. And AS can't really affect it either; that's why there's the TMPDPL "Container" API. Now api-embedded doesn't have a dependency on even VDF. Container becomes the locked SPI. Does that solve the backwards-compat issue sufficiently for you? S, ALR View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4261089#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...