OK, the working combo is: 1) Emanuel's patch 2) Scott's jboss:man SNAPSHOT Resulting in: ManagedDeployment: vfsfile:/home/alrubinger/business/jboss/wc/jbossas/branches/Branch_5_x/build/output/jboss-5.2.0.Beta/server/default/deploy/profileservice-secured.jar/ | +++ ManagedComponent(name=jboss.j2ee:service=EJB3,name=SecureProfileService-metrics-invocation, type=(ComponentType{type=EJB3, subtype=Session}), compName=jboss.j2ee:service=EJB3,name=SecureProfileService-metrics-invocation, attachment: org.jboss.ejb3.metrics.deployer.ManagedInvocationStatisticsWrapper | ++++++ properties: [stats] | +++ ManagedComponent(name=jboss.j2ee:service=EJB3,name=SecureManagementView-metrics-invocation, type=(ComponentType{type=EJB3, subtype=Session}), compName=jboss.j2ee:service=EJB3,name=SecureManagementView-metrics-invocation, attachment: org.jboss.ejb3.metrics.deployer.ManagedInvocationStatisticsWrapper | ++++++ properties: [stats] | +++ ManagedComponent(name=jboss.j2ee:service=EJB3,name=SecureDeploymentManager-metrics-invocation, type=(ComponentType{type=EJB3, subtype=Session}), compName=jboss.j2ee:service=EJB3,name=SecureDeploymentManager-metrics-invocation, attachment: org.jboss.ejb3.metrics.deployer.ManagedInvocationStatisticsWrapper | ++++++ properties: [stats] | +++ ManagedComponent(name=jboss.j2ee:service=EJB3,name=SecureDeploymentManager-metrics-instance, type=(ComponentType{type=EJB3, subtype=SLSB}), compName=jboss.j2ee:service=EJB3,name=SecureDeploymentManager-metrics-instance, attachment: org.jboss.ejb3.metrics.deployer.BasicStatelessSessionInstanceMetrics | ++++++ properties: [removeCount, currentSize, maxSize, createCount, availableCount] | +++ ManagedComponent(name=jboss.j2ee:service=EJB3,name=SecureManagementView-metrics-instance, type=(ComponentType{type=EJB3, subtype=SLSB}), compName=jboss.j2ee:service=EJB3,name=SecureManagementView-metrics-instance, attachment: org.jboss.ejb3.metrics.deployer.BasicStatelessSessionInstanceMetrics | ++++++ properties: [removeCount, currentSize, maxSize, createCount, availableCount] | +++ ManagedComponent(name=jboss.j2ee:service=EJB3,name=SecureProfileService-metrics-instance, type=(ComponentType{type=EJB3, subtype=SLSB}), compName=jboss.j2ee:service=EJB3,name=SecureProfileService-metrics-instance, attachment: org.jboss.ejb3.metrics.deployer.BasicStatelessSessionInstanceMetrics | ++++++ properties: [removeCount, currentSize, maxSize, createCount, availableCount] I've therefore committed Emanuel's patch and released as jboss-ejb3-metrics-deployer:1.0.0-alpha-2. When used in conjunction with jboss-man:2.1.1-20090531.135556-1, this satisfies the JON use case. Scott, would you like to make a formal release of this 2.1.1-SNAPSHOT series? S, ALR View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4234552#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...