Ok, thanks it's a bit clearer but I am still hung up on the first two portions in what layer should creating the ManagedConnectionFactoryDeploymentGroup and it's associated ManagedConnectionFactoryDeploymentMetaData reside? From your example, I am assuming that the admin client is passing enough contextual information to make this happen, but I am not quite clear on *where* it should happen. In other words, by the time applyTemplates is invoked quite a bit has already been done. It's more of a workflow issue that I am not getting at this point. The primary example provided in the few existing test cases simply call applyTemplates which obviously is not going to work directly. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4093652#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...