AHHHHHHHHHHH I'm ashamed, I did not mean to play down jboss messaging. Just that I would never run it in production as part of the bpm engine/deployment. It would be a separate deployment with it's own release cycles etc.... come to think of it. I have to try it again. It was a long time ago and it has matured greatly from what I've read. I'm curious though for the reason to use a different ui framework and not build e.g. jsf/facelets components View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3986062#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...