Yes, I've seen that, but - loadidentities it is currently hard connected to hsqldb since it uses a specific config file (not configurable) - the identity component is not easily replaced (it is not pluggable as a service!!), people think it is (my experience from the forum) - people want to demonstrate jBPM with *their* db and initally do not care about the identity being there, they even 'like' it If I want to have it in mysql (the demo we have does NOT perform with hsqldb), I have to do 'a lot' of work manually. If it would be possible to e.g. pass a parameter to some ant tasks that say 'use mysql' and configure e.g. the properties for the correct database. The correct scripts for just that DB, including the (optional) identity scripts (another ddl?) and create a loadidentities that uses this db config to populate the database would be nice. So to summarize, the separation is nice and makes sence, but it should be easy to generate the identity ddl AND load some default (identities.xml) for ANY database. I'm looking at CRUD for the ui, but if CRUD is implemented for hsqldb, I think the other databases should not be forgotten. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3961135#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...