"scott.stark(a)jboss.org" wrote : | The CachedConnectionValve should be the one expression the injection of the CachedConnectionManager. OK, that's the key point I wanted to get clarity on. Same thing applies to the ClusteredSingleSignOn valve; it needs to express the injection of a JBoss Cache instance. But... will this help with the startup failure? If embedded tomcat is started via the DeployerScanner, does it matter where the dependency on something is deploy is expressed? The dependency still won't be resolved. Unless we start doing things like deploying valves in deploy, independent from server.xml. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3982201#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...