"bershath27" wrote : | Tim, i'm not suppoed to have/implement any vendor specific SQL. we'll be compromising the main purpose of using HBN/JPA on JBM, which is to abstract different vendor specific DDL and DML stuff. at each different DB implementations, all you have to change is the HBN dialect. nothing more, nothing less. :) | Yes I understand that. I was just trying to make the point that you may be able to miss out the ORM altogether and just use the dialects, and I was asking if you could provide some examples.... View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4112479#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...