There are a couple of things here, first thing is that our feature.xml is apparently prohibiting people from using a later version of WTP ... we shouldn't (unless we know of a specific incompability, right ?) The other is how we package our stuff and Marshall lists the worstcase scenario of the number of packages. But looking at http://download.jboss.com/jbosside/builds/nightly/200608012131-nightly/bu... it isn't that bad is it ? Can't this be "cleaned" up ? e.g. instead of having core, jbossas and ejb3 tools as seperate plugins could they not be toghether ? When do you want them seperate ? Drools, AOP, Hibernate Tools, Designer and FreeMarker are the only "true" independent ones. And afaik Drools and FreeMarker are "true" independents in the word they don't need anything else but Eclipse leaving only AOP, Hibernate Tools and Designer as the only one that "needs" a "runtime-download" option. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3962375#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...