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Jesper Pedersen [http://community.jboss.org/people/jesper.pedersen] created the
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"Re: Parsing and validation"
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Validation has been implemented as method validate AND it's fired
for every metadata creation (aka as part of the constructor). I think it's better to
have valid metadata since we are working with immutable object at metadata level (at
least in 99% of cases). Of course the method validate is public and can be fired by
metadata's client too in case of metadata forced modification (forceXXX methods).
Opinions?
The validator is also available as a standalone tool, and have Ant and Maven integration.
Having the validator as part of our deployment chain is to ensure that people are actually
using it before deploying to our container.
So all the triggered rules should be collected and summaried in the generated report.
Of course make this fine grained check would need some extra
analysis and some extra documentation, but I think we would get great benefits.
Yes, it would be nice to have a very fine gained analysis of the deployments. However, I
think it is of lower priority than some of our other tasks atm. If we have some sort of
framework for these validation rules it would be a good task for a new contributor.
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Stefano Maestri [http://community.jboss.org/people/maeste] created the discussion
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Jesper Pedersen wrote:
> Validation has been implemented as method validate AND it's fired for every
metadata creation (aka as part of the constructor). I think it's better to have valid
metadata since we are working with immutable object at metadata level (at least in 99% of
cases). Of course the method validate is public and can be fired by metadata's client
too in case of metadata forced modification (forceXXX methods). Opinions?
The validator is also available as a standalone tool, and have Ant and Maven integration.
Having the validator as part of our deployment chain is to ensure that people are actually
using it before deploying to our container.
So all the triggered rules should be collected and summaried in the generated report
Oki, but it isn't our validator. Here we are validate our metadata representing
xml or annotations. AFAIK our validator tool is about our javax.* implementations,
generated from this metadata. IOW here we have implemented minimal check from xsds
constraints, something that users could achieve standalone just validating xml against our
xsds. Of course we are not enabling xsds validation for performance reasons, doing this
validation on generated metadata instead.
Jesper Pedersen wrote:
> Of course make this fine grained check would need some extra analysis and some
extra documentation, but I think we would get great benefits.
Yes, it would be nice to have a very fine gained analysis of the deployments. However, I
think it is of lower priority than some of our other tasks atm. If we have some sort of
framework for these validation rules it would be a good task for a new contributor.
Good point. I have created a JIRA for the community about that:
https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBJCA-476 https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBJCA-476
Anyone interested?
bye
S.
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Jesper Pedersen [http://community.jboss.org/people/jesper.pedersen] created the
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Oki, but it isn't our validator.
Ah, ok :) I guess that we have to define more clearly where what type of validation we
are talking about since we are starting to have a lot of layers that focuses on different
things.
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