This seems to be getting very confused? ATTACHMENTS The original design was the following: You have two types of attachment: 1) Transient - these are created by the parsing deployers from the raw xml inside the deployments 2) Predetermined - these are what the profile service (or some other invoker of the deployers) passes in to override what is in the deployment. The Predetermined attachments are a sort of alt-dd but done programmatically. I can see an argument for having a third type of attachment which is internal state related to the deployment but it is stuff that we don't want the profile service/management layer to override. It will always be constructed at runtime. However, this can also be trivially dealt with by the ManagedObjectBuilder NOT creating a ManagedObject for that attachment type. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4005239#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...