9:39 a.m.
Seam Team,
My name is Piotr (Peter) Steininger and I am a former Amentra/RedHat
consultant living in the Washington, DC area. I've worked on a number of
consulting projects using Seam 2 as a solutions architect and a tech/dev
lead. I learned to love a lot of Seam's features (and got to know a lot of
it inside and out), and got to experience many challenges of using Seam in
(both technical and political). Since the experience I gained has been
paying my bills for a while, I feel that this is the time to pay back, and
invest my time and skills into Seam and Weld, which I am very excited about
and want to promote for future projects.
So I'd like to contribute to Seam 3 code in some way, to accelerate the time
line. I would also love to help build some solid examples (beyond booking,
number guess, etc - something with hands and legs - I have a few ideas,
which I'll be putting down on paper pretty soon).
I checked out the sources for modules one by one, but I can't seem to build
some of them (ie. seam-bpm). Maven complains that it can't find
seam-parent:3.0.0-SNAPSHOT. I found a trace of it on repository.sonatype.org(
http://repository.sonatype.org/content/groups/public/org/jboss/seam/seam-...),
but no pom, just metadata.
How can I get around it?
I have to admit I am totally new to the process of contributing to
open-source since I've been on consulting gigs pretty much behind closed
doors, so I am not sure where to start. I tried to find some more detailed
developer docs, but I probably did not dig deep enough.
I appreciate in advance any advice and direction.
Thanks,
Piotr
11:10 a.m.
Hi Piotr,
We're currently in the process of refining the Seam 3 modules to get
them into some kind of working order. If you would like to contribute,
please take a look at
http://www.seamframework.org/Documentation/Seam3Modules for starters to
see if there are any modules in particular that you would be interested
in helping out with. If you see any you would like to work on, we can
organize for you to work with the module lead to coordinate efforts.
Here's a couple of other useful links that might be helpful:
http://www.seamframework.org/Documentation/Seam3Build - contains some
information about building Seam 3 (this page needs some work and some
information on it may now be outdated).
http://www.jboss.org/contribute/ - contains the contributor agreement
for contributing code to JBoss projects. You'll need to submit one of
these to be able to contribute any code to the project (you'll be happy
to know that the contributor agreement page is powered by Seam ;).
Any other questions please don't hesitate to ask, and finally thanks for
the kind offer to help!
Regards,
Shane
On 11/12/09 01:39, Piotr Steininger wrote:
Seam Team,
My name is Piotr (Peter) Steininger and I am a former Amentra/RedHat
consultant living in the Washington, DC area. I've worked on a number
of consulting projects using Seam 2 as a solutions architect and a
tech/dev lead. I learned to love a lot of Seam's features (and got to
know a lot of it inside and out), and got to experience many
challenges of using Seam in (both technical and political). Since the
experience I gained has been paying my bills for a while, I feel that
this is the time to pay back, and invest my time and skills into Seam
and Weld, which I am very excited about and want to promote for future
projects.
So I'd like to contribute to Seam 3 code in some way, to accelerate
the time line. I would also love to help build some solid examples
(beyond booking, number guess, etc - something with hands and legs - I
have a few ideas, which I'll be putting down on paper pretty soon).
I checked out the sources for modules one by one, but I can't seem to
build some of them (ie. seam-bpm). Maven complains that it can't find
seam-parent:3.0.0-SNAPSHOT. I found a trace of it on
repository.sonatype.org <http://repository.sonatype.org>
(http://repository.sonatype.org/content/groups/public/org/jboss/seam/seam-...),
but no pom, just metadata.
How can I get around it?
I have to admit I am totally new to the process of contributing to
open-source since I've been on consulting gigs pretty much behind
closed doors, so I am not sure where to start. I tried to find some
more detailed developer docs, but I probably did not dig deep enough.
I appreciate in advance any advice and direction.
Thanks,
Piotr
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12:22 p.m.
Shane,
Thanks for your email.
I'd like to start by helping to get the most critical modules to business
applications. I consider those to be: security, bpm, drools and mail.
Whether it is development, testing, documentation - it's all the same to me.
Beyond that I'd like to make my biggest contribution in education and
promotion in the community. I think it's not enough to get the technical
community excited, we need the folks that are paying the bills for IT
projects to be on board and confident. The reason for it is my experience
trying to wade through politics of technology selection on the projects I
was involved in. I found that many organizations were hesitant or in
opposition to Seam, simply because it was something they never heard about,
and in their mind it was yet another framework with high risk. Some
organizations see a relatively small resource pool and a new technology as a
risk. So I'd like to help grow this resource pool, so that CDI, Weld, and
Seam not only gain traction with the technical community, but also with the
business that ultimately way too often (unfortunately) decides which
technology to use.
The way I think I can help best is to work closely with each module lead on
developing viable and useful (but small scale) examples of how to use each
module, and write articles about these examples, explaining in sufficient
details each one. I think having a hands-on experience with real mission
critical apps can be of some benefit. But before I get there I could
definitely help out porting over / reimplementing portions of any module you
guys believe is of high priority. I'd like for the leads to provide me with
some initial guidance/intro, so I can get better acquainted with the code,
and a consensus about priorities. I would also definitely enjoy being
brought in on some architecture related conversations.
I realized that I have signed a contributor's agreement earlier this year
(June 29), but it is still pending.
Thanks again, and please let me know how to proceed beyond here.
Thanks,
Piotr
4:20 p.m.
I'd like to start by helping to get the most critical modules to business
applications. I consider those to be: security, bpm, drools and mail.
Whether it is development, testing, documentation - it's all the same to me.
You'll have to feel around in the beginning to see which module is best to
hack on first. Security is probably the easiest since most of the code is
internal, except for a minor dependency on drools for bootstrapping the
security rules.
Beyond that I'd like to make my biggest contribution in education and
promotion in the community. I think it's not enough to get the technical
community excited, we need the folks that are paying the bills for IT
projects to be on board and confident. The reason for it is my experience
trying to wade through politics of technology selection on the projects I
was involved in. I found that many organizations were hesitant or in
opposition to Seam, simply because it was something they never heard about,
and in their mind it was yet another framework with high risk. Some
organizations see a relatively small resource pool and a new technology as a
risk. So I'd like to help grow this resource pool, so that CDI, Weld, and
Seam not only gain traction with the technical community, but also with the
business that ultimately way too often (unfortunately) decides which
technology to use.
The way I think I can help best is to work closely with each module lead on
developing viable and useful (but small scale) examples of how to use each
module, and write articles about these examples, explaining in sufficient
details each one. I think having a hands-on experience with real mission
critical apps can be of some benefit. But before I get there I could
definitely help out porting over / reimplementing portions of any module you
guys believe is of high priority. I'd like for the leads to provide me with
some initial guidance/intro, so I can get better acquainted with the code,
and a consensus about priorities. I would also definitely enjoy being
brought in on some architecture related conversations.
I've got just the person you need to talk to. We have been hearing this
exact sentiment a lot lately and have someone leading up this effort as a
result. I'll connect you with him and we can chat about it in specifics.
I realized that I have signed a contributor's agreement earlier this year
(June 29), but it is still pending.
I'll work to get this resolved. Sorry about that, the jboss.org team has
been going through a ton of migrations to make this more streamlined.
Thanks again, and please let me know how to proceed beyond here.
We'll keep in touch, but when in doubt, hit up #seam-dev in IRC (or
#weld-dev if no one is at the first channel).
Thanks,
Thank you!
-Dan
--
Dan Allen
Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
Registered Linux User #231597
http://mojavelinux.com
http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction
http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen
5:43 a.m.
On 10 Dec 2009, at 22:20, Dan Allen wrote:
I realized that I have signed a contributor's agreement earlier this year (June 29),
but it is still pending.
I'll work to get this resolved. Sorry about that, the jboss.org team has been going
through a ton of migrations to make this more streamlined.
It's now in the approval queue :-)
Unfortunately, there is no comment field on the contributor agreements, which makes it
impossible to know why someone signed, so I wait until they pop up elsewhere before
approving it.
4:13 p.m.
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Piotr Steininger <
piotr.steininger(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Seam Team,
My name is Piotr (Peter) Steininger and I am a former Amentra/RedHat
consultant living in the Washington, DC area. I've worked on a number of
consulting projects using Seam 2 as a solutions architect and a tech/dev
lead. I learned to love a lot of Seam's features (and got to know a lot of
it inside and out), and got to experience many challenges of using Seam in
(both technical and political). Since the experience I gained has been
paying my bills for a while, I feel that this is the time to pay back, and
invest my time and skills into Seam and Weld, which I am very excited about
and want to promote for future projects.
Awesome!
So I'd like to contribute to Seam 3 code in some way, to accelerate the
time line. I would also love to help build some solid examples (beyond
booking, number guess, etc - something with hands and legs - I have a few
ideas, which I'll be putting down on paper pretty soon).
Sounds like exactly what we need ;)
I checked out the sources for modules one by one, but I can't seem to build
some of them (ie. seam-bpm). Maven complains that it can't find
seam-parent:3.0.0-SNAPSHOT. I found a trace of it on
repository.sonatype.org (
http://repository.sonatype.org/content/groups/public/org/jboss/seam/seam-...),
but no pom, just metadata.
How can I get around it?
I have to admit I am totally new to the process of contributing to
open-source since I've been on consulting gigs pretty much behind closed
doors, so I am not sure where to start. I tried to find some more detailed
developer docs, but I probably did not dig deep enough.
I appreciate in advance any advice and direction.
We are just getting Seam 3 off the ground, as you can tell. Some of it is
not flying yet. The best thing to do is hop on the #seam-dev IRC channel
since the best documentation is real-time help.
We love your enthusiasm and request your patience since you are going to be
part of the lift off process ;)
-Dan
--
Dan Allen
Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action
Registered Linux User #231597
http://mojavelinux.com
http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction
http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen
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