Re: [teiid-dev] standalone-teiid.xml and docs in general

By "If we can develop with what they have currently" do you mean have them write the GUIs into the current AS 7 console, or roll our own using GWT? I thought we scrapped the idea of them doing the GUI since the development timeframe didn't work for us and we didn't want to be dependent on the AS7 release cycle. ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Ramesh Reddy" <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; | To: "Ted Jones" <tejones(a)redhat.com&gt; | Cc: "teiid-dev" <teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;, "Steven Hawkins" <shawkins(a)redhat.com&gt; | Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:50:31 AM | Subject: Re: [teiid-dev] standalone-teiid.xml and docs in general | | On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 11:20 -0500, Ted Jones wrote: | > IRT the the GWT console, we need the plugable framework to avoid | > tying us to AS releases, right? Is the development of that | > framework what requires GWT expertise? | No, that is not Teiid's concern, it is AS7 console developer's. If we | can develop with what they have currently is the goal, and we will | modify to whatever framework they provide in future. | > | > Extending the AS7 plugin for Teiid is a WIP, but I plan on | > continuing work on it over holiday break and hope to have it solid | > by mid Jan. | Thanks, if we can show some console by second alpha that would be | good. | | Ramesh.. | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | From: "Ramesh Reddy" <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; | > | To: "Ted Jones" <tejones(a)redhat.com&gt; | > | Cc: "teiid-dev" <teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;, "Steven Hawkins" | > | <shawkins(a)redhat.com&gt; | > | Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:07:40 AM | > | Subject: Re: [teiid-dev] standalone-teiid.xml and docs in general | > | | > | Currently community AS7 does not bundle any RHQ based console. | > | This | > | is a | > | separate bundle, that needs to be downloaded and installed. Seems | > | like | > | they moved away from the "Embedded JOPR" and GWT based | > | "admin-console" | > | replaced its place. Unfortunately, to be in-line with other | > | projects | > | we | > | need Teiid implementations of both. Time will decide which | > | console | > | will | > | succeed. | > | | > | Yes, RHQ based implementation is very much needed for community | > | and | > | product aspirations. Do you have any updates to report your | > | progress | > | on | > | this front? | > | | > | Ramesh.. | > | | > | On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 10:42 -0500, Ted Jones wrote: | > | > We are still looking at recommending RHQ to start with though, | > | > correct? | > | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | > | From: "Ramesh Reddy" <rareddy(a)redhat.com&gt; | > | > | To: "Steven Hawkins" <shawkins(a)redhat.com&gt; | > | > | Cc: "teiid-dev" <teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; | > | > | Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:21:10 AM | > | > | Subject: Re: [teiid-dev] standalone-teiid.xml and docs in | > | > | general | > | > | | > | > | Yes, using some kind of admin tool is the preferred way. | > | > | Another | > | > | reason | > | > | it may not be good to edit manually is when the server is | > | > | running | > | > | in | > | > | domain mode. Using the admin tools will change the | > | > | configuration | > | > | on | > | > | all | > | > | or defined server groups by the user. However, if the server | > | > | is | > | > | not | > | > | running, you can edit the standalone-teiid.xml to make | > | > | changes to | > | > | configuration. Some times it easy to edit this file than | > | > | using | > | > | the | > | > | tools. | > | > | | > | > | If we use command line then it is Jboss Admin tool (CLI, | > | > | jboss-admin.sh), or use the admin-console web app. Right now | > | > | user | > | > | can | > | > | use the CLI, however for the Web app I just started looking | > | > | into | > | > | and | > | > | we | > | > | are way behind its implementation time line. We need a GWT | > | > | expert | > | > | to | > | > | move this along much faster. | > | > | | > | > | Ramesh.. | > | > | | > | > | On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 20:59 -0500, Steven Hawkins wrote: | > | > | > It's not so much that the docs are referencing the config | > | > | > file | > | > | > in | > | > | > expecting it to be documented, rather it's the docs | > | > | > describe | > | > | > editing that file (which is clearly more difficult if all | > | > | > elements/attributes are not present). So what we actually | > | > | > need | > | > | > to | > | > | > do is modify the documentation to not reference | > | > | > standalone-teiid.xml at all, but rather how to make | > | > | > modifications | > | > | > through the CLI, correct? | > | > | > | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | > | > > Steve, | > | > | > > | > | > | > > It is not possible to self documenting this file, as this | > | > | > > gets | > | > | > > overwritten every time there is a configuration change. | > | > | > > However, | > | > | > > the | > | > | > > configuration elements are forced to have description in | > | > | > > the | > | > | > > code, | > | > | > > which | > | > | > > can be seen by querying the subsystem using CLI. So, any | > | > | > > tools | > | > | > > written | > | > | > > above the CLI api can get access to this information. | > | > | > > | > | > | > > We should remove any references in docs to see this file | > | > | > > for | > | > | > > explanations. | > | > | > > | > | > | > > Ramesh.. | > | > | > > | > | > | > > On Tue, 2011-12-20 at 12:50 -0500, Steven Hawkins wrote: | > | > | > > > Should the standalone-teiid.xml be self-documenting and | > | > | > > > include | > | > | > > > all | > | > | > > > known elements/attributes? In carrying forward | > | > | > > > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/TEIID-1873 the security | > | > | > > > doc | > | > | > > > reference elements/attributes that aren't in the file. | > | > | > > > | > | > | > > > As we are close to our first alpha any help in updating | > | > | > > > the | > | > | > > > docs | > | > | > > > would be great. | > | > | > > > | > | > | > > > Steve | > | > | > > > | > | > | > > > _______________________________________________ | > | > | > > > teiid-dev mailing list | > | > | > > > teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org | > | > | > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev | > | > | > > | > | > | > > | > | > | > > | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | _______________________________________________ | > | > | teiid-dev mailing list | > | > | teiid-dev(a)lists.jboss.org | > | > | https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/teiid-dev | > | > | | > | | > | | > | | | |