[Design of JBoss ESB] - Re: Trailblazer out-of-the-box experience
by mark.little＠jboss.com
BTW, just to be clear: I'm not saying that the change to maintaining before and after "images" in the pipeline is bad if it's for an architectural reason. Only that if that is the case then normally that would be defined as part of the inter-component interaction contract definition and we should explicitly mention that within the documentation.
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[Design of JBoss ESB] - Re: Trailblazer out-of-the-box experience
by mark.little＠jboss.com
"estebanschifman" wrote : Tom,
| As a result of your observation yesterday, I have introduced a fix for that problem.
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I think we should have discussed this further before any change was made. It may be that this is a problem, but I'd like to understand it first. As I've just said to Tom, at first glance this behaviour would break information containment rules. Maybe I'm missing something and this is default behaviour we want for ActionProcessors (definitely NOT what I want for dispatchers though), but I'd like to understand the potential issue.
anonymous wrote :
| The AbstractListener will now keep the 'before action' as well as the 'after action' current object, until the processing pipeline is about to start the next step in the chain.
| As a consequence of this, the notification methods (and in fact any other methods that we might have in the future invoked after the process(Message) and the end of this action) have now access to both. (before and after action).
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| Thanks. E
Can you show the interface here, so we can discuss? I'd like to separate out the issue of the changes from the issue of why the change may be necessary. Probably better to have that latter discussion first.
Thanks.
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[Design of JBoss ESB] - Re: Trailblazer out-of-the-box experience
by mark.little＠jboss.com
"tfennelly" wrote : "mark.little(a)jboss.com" wrote : I think that given the overall Rosetta architecture, what's there now in temrs of Messages is good enough until dispatchers go in to the next release. There are more important areas to concentrate on IMO.
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| Aye, probably is fine for now alright.
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| Just to let people know what it means.... it just means that the Abstract*Processors classes are restricted in their use because the process(File) process(Map) etc methods block the implementing class from accessing the Message. I noticed this (coupled with the get*Notification methods) as a small problem yesterday when, with the FileToByteArray converter, I wanted to get the original "WorkingFile" instance from inside the get*Notification methods but couldn't because the CURRENT_OBJECT had changed the CURRENT_OBJECT from inside the process(File) method.
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Can you outline the specific use case here (not talking about classes or interfaces at this point)? I want to understand the architectural issue, because from a pipeline perspective, I'd assume that as you progress through the pipeline components, the payload/message content does change and element N in the change of M components won't necessarily be able to see the message as it appeared when N-1 saw it. To do otherwise raises potential security issues and causes information leakage across component boundaries, which is never a good thing. A specific requirement to do this could be done and would normally be part of the contract negotiation between components, but I'd say that was not the default behaviour.
anonymous wrote :
| A possible solution to this would have been to bind the WorkingFile instance to some other name on the Message.Body. However, we couldn't do this because the process(File) method doesn't have access to the Message.
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| So, if you really need to get around an issue like this, it means implementing an ActionProcessor from scratch i.e. not extending the Abstract implementations. This is not such a big deal any more beause the ActionProcessors have been completely decoupled from the underlying delivery channel - the Abstract* implementations do close on nothing at this stage.
Before changing I'd like to understand the reasons.
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[Design of JBoss ESB] - Re: Trailblazer out-of-the-box experience
by estebanschifman
Tom,
As a result of your observation yesterday, I have introduced a fix for that problem.
The AbstractListener will now keep the 'before action' as well as the 'after action' current object, until the processing pipeline is about to start the next step in the chain.
As a consequence of this, the notification methods (and in fact any other methods that we might have in the future invoked after the process(Message) and the end of this action) have now access to both. (before and after action).
Thanks. E
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[Design of JBoss ESB] - Re: Trailblazer out-of-the-box experience
by tfennelly
"mark.little(a)jboss.com" wrote : I think that given the overall Rosetta architecture, what's there now in temrs of Messages is good enough until dispatchers go in to the next release. There are more important areas to concentrate on IMO.
Aye, probably is fine for now alright.
Just to let people know what it means.... it just means that the Abstract*Processors classes are restricted in their use because the process(File) process(Map) etc methods block the implementing class from accessing the Message. I noticed this (coupled with the get*Notification methods) as a small problem yesterday when, with the FileToByteArray converter, I wanted to get the original "WorkingFile" instance from inside the get*Notification methods but couldn't because the CURRENT_OBJECT had changed the CURRENT_OBJECT from inside the process(File) method. A possible solution to this would have been to bind the WorkingFile instance to some other name on the Message.Body. However, we couldn't do this because the process(File) method doesn't have access to the Message.
So, if you really need to get around an issue like this, it means implementing an ActionProcessor from scratch i.e. not extending the Abstract implementations. This is not such a big deal any more beause the ActionProcessors have been completely decoupled from the underlying delivery channel - the Abstract* implementations do close on nothing at this stage.
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[Design of JBoss Profiler] - Re: [JRockit] ERROR: jbossInspector.dll: Can't find depende
by clebert.suconic＠jboss.com
I haven't tested JRockit with Profiler for a while.
I don't know if it would work without doing any work.
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[Design of JBoss Profiler] - [JRockit] ERROR: jbossInspector.dll: Can't find dependent l
by larryDlefever
JAVA: C:\Program Files\Java\jrockit-R26.0.0-jdk1.5.0_04\bin\java
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JAVA_OPTS: -XrunjbossInspector:/jboss_profiler_logs,include=* -Dprogram.name=run.bat -Xms384m -Xmx384m ......
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[JRockit] ERROR: jbossInspector.dll: Can't find dependent libraries
Could not create the Java virtual machine.
I used DependencyWalker on jbossInspector.dll. I typically don't work with native code, but DependencyWalker seemed to suggest that MSVCRT.DLL is needed. I see that I have that on my Windows system folder. I don't see how that's not being found though. I actually put it on my PATH, too, along with jbossInspector.dll, but that didn't work either.
The only other dependency indicated by DependencyWalker is Kernel32.dll, which is, of course, essentially Windows, itself.
Anybody else have experience with this while using JRockit ?
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[Design of POJO Server] - Legacy MainDeployer delegating to kernel MainDeployer
by scott.stark＠jboss.org
I have hooked up the legacy MainDeployer to the kernel MainDeployer instance:
| <mbean code="org.jboss.deployment.MainDeployer"
| name="jboss.system:service=MainDeployer">
| <!-- This is used to delegate the deployment handling -->
| <attribute name="KernelMainDeployer"><inject bean="MainDeployer" /></attribute>
| </mbean>
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This will allow deploy/undeploy through the RMIAdaptor to hit the kernel MainDeployer.
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