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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Re: replace sources tabs with links

by tom.baeyens＠jboss.com

I think these should be links with a back navigation option. Because this is a developer/demo/evaluation version only type of features that you don't want in your production system. A link will minimize the difference between the evaluation version and the 'real' version. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3998996#3998996 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=3998996

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Re: direct navigation when starting a new process instance

by tom.baeyens＠jboss.com

"jeffdelong" wrote : This is a bit tricky, because these are really two different scenarios here. | | 1) if Start-task - then user should be navigated to the page to perform the task, i.e. fill in the form. | +1 "jeffdelong" wrote : | 2) no Start-task - typically the user that started the process will not perform the first task in the process (otherwise we could have modelled their task at the start). So they should not navigate to a task-related page. Question is where to take them. What they would probably most like to see is the list of started processInstances, and see the one they just started in that list, or the ProcessInstance View for that particular instance that they just started. | i would guess they most likely want to see the ProcessInstance View. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3998995#3998995 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=3998995

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Re: simplified process instance view

by tom.baeyens＠jboss.com

"jeffdelong" wrote : Just want to mention that the navigation from Processes (i.e., ProcessDefinitions) to ProcessInstances to single ProcessInstance makes sense, and don't want to lose that (don't think that is anyone's intention, but it has not been mentioned in any of Tom's comments). good point. this is related to the single central search page idea that i just described: http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3998991 View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3998993#3998993 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=3998993

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - one central search page

by tom.baeyens＠jboss.com

I would like one central search page that can be used to search for * Process definitions * Process instances * Task instances I think it would make sense to have this as one page cause various links could navigate to this page with prefilled criteria: * process instances for a process definition * task instances for a process instance * task instances for a task * task instances for a process definition i think that would be a concept that people quickly start to grasp: if they click a link 'process instances' in a process definition page that they are navigated to the search results screen. that also gives them easy ways of starting to tweak and change the search criteria to refine their search. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3998991#3998991 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=3998991

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[Design of JBoss Web Services] - Re: Using jbossws/trunk for jboss-5.0, jboss-4.2, jboss-4.0.

by darran.lofthouse＠jboss.com

Yes that fixes it, thanks. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3998990#3998990 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=3998990

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Re: new simplified menu structure

by tom.baeyens＠jboss.com

"kukeltje" wrote : I mean... if it is in a datatable, 'assign to me' in a button form would make the form rather crowded 'Assign to me' as a link would be good as well. As long as that is the only way people can start working on this task. This is important as the webapp has to make sure that there is no multiple people start working on this task concurrently. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3998988#3998988 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=3998988

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Re: new simplified menu structure

by tom.baeyens＠jboss.com

"bazoo" wrote : I would not incorporate the "Search for instance" row in the task list, at least not at the top. For someone new to the app, you don't immediately notice that you have a task in the task list because it is hidden in small text underneath the big search boxes. You immediately think you have to perform a search, even though you may not have to. | i'll take this to a separate thread. "bazoo" wrote : I don't understand what the "Task Definition View" is really. I also think that should be left out. At task-instance-creation-time, the task definition data is copied into the task instance data. After that, the task instance data might be updated (e.g. description or name). I don't think that showing the task definition information is relevant. "bazoo" wrote : I don't think the Summary page should be the first page you see when you click Task Instance View. I think it should be the Task Form to minimize clicking. | +1 "bazoo" wrote : Instead of "End Task", I would suggest "Proceed", to reinforce the idea that the user is moving through a process. | The good thing about 'End Task' is that it's from the perspective of the task performer. 'Proceed' has more meaning in the context of the larger business process. But the task performer does not HAVE to be aware of that. I was thinking of 'Finish' or 'Complete' but none of those really hits it for me. "bazoo" wrote : I get the following exception when I click "End task" or "More info needed", although the transition does happen: javax.el.PropertyNotFoundException: /main/task/new_tasks.xhtml @41,57 value="#{entry.taskInstance.id}": Property 'taskInstance' is not found on type: java.lang.String | David, are you onto this one ? Can you reproduce ? "bazoo" wrote : I would suggest that "User Task List" should be at the top of the navigation menu, especially as it is the view you go to first when you log in. | +1 Thanks Matt ! View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3998986#3998986 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=3998986

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[Design of JBoss Web Services] - Re: Using jbossws/trunk for jboss-5.0, jboss-4.2, jboss-4.0.

by thomas.diesler＠jboss.com

Yes, jbossall-client.jar is the culprit. Please try this |  | <path id="test.client.classpath"> | <path refid="jbossws.client.classpath"/> | <pathelement location="${jboss.client}/jbossall-client.jar"/> | View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3998982#3998982 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=3998982

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[Design of JBoss jBPM] - Re: remove context sensitive menus

by tom.baeyens＠jboss.com

"jeffdelong" wrote : I also have a comment on Terminology. We seem to be equating Processes with ProcessDefinitions. This is okay, most users don't like to say processdefinitions, but we must always be clear when dealing with instances that we say ProcessInstances, so that the difference is clear. in the new core prototype, i use the following terminology ProcessDefinition --> Process ProcessInstance and Token --> Execution Maybe that could already be adopted into the web console for 3.2. But probably that would cause more confusion then it solves, no ? View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3998973#3998973 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=3998973

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[Design of JBoss Portal] - Re: LayouStrategy and StrategyResponse API

by julien＠jboss.com

I agree with you. This api has been simplified in 2.6 (for debugging and support purpose, the current code was very tangled an complex) and we removed everything that was not used. So your customization may break (sorry for that). We encourage you to test it against the upcoming alpha release. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=3998965#3998965 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=3998965

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