10:38 p.m.
Continual Employment Prospects.
Or Complex Event Processing. :)
GreG
On Oct 25, 2009, at 22:04, Pradeep Pujari <Pradeepp(a)rocketmail.com> wrote:
GAE stands for Google App Engine
What is CEP means?
Thanks,
Pradeep
--- On Sun, 10/25/09, Michael Neale <michael.neale(a)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Michael Neale <michael.neale(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [rules-dev] drools and google app engine
To: "Rules Dev List" <rules-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 7:43 PM
Hi Jess - I have experience with GAE
- but never thought to try drools on it.
Certainly should be possible - a few little tweaks might be
needed to
avoid verboten APIs. However, the main thing that "cramps
its style"
is the fact that apps on GAE really should be stateless (in
order to
scale) but I guess that if you can cope with a session
suddenly moving
then it might work out (or just use stateless rules).
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:31 PM, <youknowwho(a)heroicefforts.net>
wrote:
I saw an earlier post where someone ran into file
access issues deploying the Drools engine on Google's
platform. It seems like a relatively simple task to
overcome this with an aspect and a weave. But before I
attempt it, I was curious if anyone had managed to get
Drools running in the app engine environment? If so, was
that the only issue encountered and what was the level of
effort?
I was thinking it might be a fun learning exercise to
leverage GAE and CEP in the creation of Google Wave Robots.
I know, I have too much time on my hands.
cheers,
-Jess
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11:11 p.m.
New subject: drools and google app engine
ROFL !
Yes, CEP == fusion == event processing.
I believe that Jess was proposing some CEP rules to process content of
waves in a "wave robot" - in google wave a robot can participate in
conversations, inject things etc.. translate etc...
So using rules and CEP for a stateful interaction would be interesting.
However, I don't think GAE would be great for that ?
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Greg Barton <greg_barton(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Continual Employment Prospects.
Or Complex Event Processing. :)
GreG
On Oct 25, 2009, at 22:04, Pradeep Pujari <Pradeepp(a)rocketmail.com> wrote:
GAE stands for Google App Engine
What is CEP means?
Thanks,
Pradeep
--- On Sun, 10/25/09, Michael Neale <michael.neale(a)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Michael Neale <michael.neale(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [rules-dev] drools and google app engine
To: "Rules Dev List" <rules-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 7:43 PM
Hi Jess - I have experience with GAE
- but never thought to try drools on it.
Certainly should be possible - a few little tweaks might be
needed to
avoid verboten APIs. However, the main thing that "cramps
its style"
is the fact that apps on GAE really should be stateless (in
order to
scale) but I guess that if you can cope with a session
suddenly moving
then it might work out (or just use stateless rules).
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:31 PM, <youknowwho(a)heroicefforts.net>
wrote:
I saw an earlier post where someone ran into file
access issues deploying the Drools engine on Google's
platform. It seems like a relatively simple task to
overcome this with an aspect and a weave. But before I
attempt it, I was curious if anyone had managed to get
Drools running in the app engine environment? If so, was
that the only issue encountered and what was the level of
effort?
I was thinking it might be a fun learning exercise to
leverage GAE and CEP in the creation of Google Wave Robots.
I know, I have too much time on my hands.
cheers,
-Jess
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12:33 a.m.
New subject: drools and google app engine
Lol. Right now either interpretation sounds pretty good.
I haven't used GAE in a real scenario yet, so I hadn't considered the scaling
implications. Aggregate functionality across waves on a large scale would seem pretty
difficult as you'd need some sort of backing store (BigTable I guess) and some
mechanism for maintaining data consistency across the cluster. Behavior applied to a
single wave wouldn't seem to be a big deal if there were a mechanism to support
pinning/routing. I'd hope there wouldn't be a need to tightly couple to the GAE
environment anyway. Unfortunately, Google currently locks you into GAE for Wave
extensions.
Maybe by the time I've mastered Wave, GAE, and Fusion, Google will have released a
Google Service Bus with transparent routing. :)
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From: "Michael Neale" <michael.neale(a)gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:11am
To: "Rules Dev List" <rules-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Subject: Re: [rules-dev] drools and google app engine
ROFL !
Yes, CEP == fusion == event processing.
I believe that Jess was proposing some CEP rules to process content of
waves in a "wave robot" - in google wave a robot can participate in
conversations, inject things etc.. translate etc...
So using rules and CEP for a stateful interaction would be interesting.
However, I don't think GAE would be great for that ?
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Greg Barton <greg_barton(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Continual Employment Prospects.
Or Complex Event Processing. :)
GreG
On Oct 25, 2009, at 22:04, Pradeep Pujari <Pradeepp(a)rocketmail.com> wrote:
GAE stands for Google App Engine
What is CEP means?
Thanks,
Pradeep
--- On Sun, 10/25/09, Michael Neale <michael.neale(a)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Michael Neale <michael.neale(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [rules-dev] drools and google app engine
To: "Rules Dev List" <rules-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Date: Sunday, October 25, 2009, 7:43 PM
Hi Jess - I have experience with GAE
- but never thought to try drools on it.
Certainly should be possible - a few little tweaks might be
needed to
avoid verboten APIs. However, the main thing that "cramps
its style"
is the fact that apps on GAE really should be stateless (in
order to
scale) but I guess that if you can cope with a session
suddenly moving
then it might work out (or just use stateless rules).
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:31 PM, <youknowwho(a)heroicefforts.net>
wrote:
I saw an earlier post where someone ran into file
access issues deploying the Drools engine on Google's
platform. It seems like a relatively simple task to
overcome this with an aspect and a weave. But before I
attempt it, I was curious if anyone had managed to get
Drools running in the app engine environment? If so, was
that the only issue encountered and what was the level of
effort?
I was thinking it might be a fun learning exercise to
leverage GAE and CEP in the creation of Google Wave Robots.
I know, I have too much time on my hands.
cheers,
-Jess
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