Re: [seam-dev] Re: Next Seam release

Sorry to leave everyone hanging. Anne Louise is working on how we can best integrate Seam 2 w/ jBPM 4 / Drools 5 into EAP 5. We have a tentative plan, which should be finalised soon. On 18 Mar 2009, at 10:49, Pete Muir wrote: > > On 18 Mar 2009, at 07:51, Tom Baeyens wrote: > >> In my original plan, Pageflow was only targetted after July. >> >> Pete, if one of your people can drive the pageflow migration, then I >> can be there to guide it. That way we can move it forward to april. > > Yes, I think we can do that (I was assuming that was the plan anyway). > >> >> >> Including jBPM 4 beta as part of your GA might not be a good idea. >> jBPM database schema will change. And that could cause serious >> upgrade problems for SEAM users using jBPM. Also upgrade from jBPM 3 >> to jBPM 4 will be impossible for now. > > Can you tell us what the earliest release we should put in 2.2.0 is? > And roughly what date we can target? If we don't have time to do 2.2.0 > and 2.2.1, I guess we could do: > > Seam 2.2.0.BETA1 - Wednesday 22nd April > Seam 2.2.0.CR1 - Wednesday 13th May > Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 17th June > > Tom and Anne-Louise, how do these dates fit your respective schedules? > >> >> >> regards, tom. >> >> >> >> Pete Muir wrote: >>> All, >>> This Drools upgrade, and a probable upgrade to jBPM 4 (happening due >>> to these products needed in the JBoss SOA platform 5, based on EAP >>> 5, which in turn includes Seam) mean that we need to make the >>> release Seam 2.2 (which I said would never happen, I know ;-) >>> Due to the concentration on Web Beans / Seam 3 there hasn't been a >>> huge amount of activity recently, however 2.2 will include: >>> * 112 issues closed (please direct your thanks to Norman here - he >>> has been soldiering away!) >>> * improvements to Seam-gen (Glassfish, IDEA etc.) from Dan >>> * big improvements to REST support - Christian and Jozef >>> * Drools and jBPM upgrades >>> So, I suggest that Norman and Marek (can you coordinate with each >>> other) handle the jBPM upgrade (Tom just released alpha2, and plans >>> the GA in the mid summer) - we should wait until there is a beta out >>> I think for Seam 2.2 GA... Tom, any rough guess when this will be? >>> Assuming Tom has a beta, I propose this schedule: >>> Seam 2.2.0 CR1 - Wednesday 22nd April >>> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 13th May >>> Seam 2.2.1 CR1 - Wednesday 17th June >>> Seam 2.2.1 - Wednesday 8th July (hopefully just after the jBPM GA) >>> This will be the first time for time-boxing our releases too, >>> something we are doing for Web Beans, and will do for Seam3. >>> Anne-Louise, could you please comment on how these dates fit with >>> EAP5 component freezes? Will we be able to get 2.2.1 in? >>> Thanks! >>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> From: "Stefano Travelli (JIRA)" <jira-events(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; >>>> Date: 18 March 2009 00:23:22 GMT >>>> To: pete.muir(a)jboss.org >>>> Subject: [JBoss JIRA] Commented: (JBSEAM-4011) Upgrade Drools >>>> framework integration to version 5 >>>> >>>> >>>> [ >>>> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011?page=com.atlassian.jira.pl... >>>> ] >>>> >>>> Stefano Travelli commented on JBSEAM-4011: >>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> As far as I know, drools 5 is not a drop in replacement of drools >>>> 4.0.7. Lots of dependencies change (mvel and antlr for instance) >>>> and most of all there are several API changes that make Seam after >>>> changeset #10170 not compatible with Drools 4 forcing a migration >>>> to Drools 5 in the run time environment of existing applications. >>>> >>>> At least, a detailed migration path for existing application is >>>> needed. However, even after accomplished all dependencies, rules in >>>> my application don't compile anymore. >>>> >>>> Actually, in my opinion this upgrade is unfitted for a maintenance >>>> release of Seam. >>>> >>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to version 5 >>>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Key: JBSEAM-4011 >>>>> URL: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011 >>>>> Project: Seam >>>>> Issue Type: Feature Request >>>>> Components: Drools >>>>> Reporter: Marek Novotny >>>>> Assignee: Marek Novotny >>>>> Fix For: 2.1.2.CR1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to current development >>>>> version of Drools 5. It is now available 5.0.0.CR1 version. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> This message is automatically generated by JIRA. >>>> - >>>> If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the >>>> administrators: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa >>>> - >>>> For more information on JIRA, see: >>>> http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Pete Muir >>> http://www.seamframework.org >>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >> >> -- >> regards, tom. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> seam-dev mailing list >> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > > -- > Pete Muir > http://www.seamframework.org > http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev -- Pete Muir http://www.seamframework.org http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev