Re: [seam-dev] Re: Next Seam release

Please note that rolling back a dependency like Drools has a ripple effect into seam-gen. The deployed-jars*.list files must be updated (if the artifact name changes, as was the case with Drools 5 and MVEL), the IDE project files must be updated, and the Ivy dependencies file must be updated. Yes, it sucks, which is why we have seam-gen encore in the works...but I'm just saying that you have to let me know excactly when you are changing it so that I can react. -Dan On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > I blogged about release plans: > > http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/TheStateOfSeam > > Marek, can you roll back the Drools 5 upgrade in trunk for now? We'll > branch after in the release for 2.1/2.2. > > Thanks! > > > Pete Muir wrote: > >> Sorry to leave everyone hanging. Anne Louise is working on how we can best >> integrate Seam 2 w/ jBPM 4 / Drools 5 into EAP 5. We have a tentative plan, >> which should be finalised soon. >> >> On 18 Mar 2009, at 10:49, Pete Muir wrote: >> >> >>> On 18 Mar 2009, at 07:51, Tom Baeyens wrote: >>> >>> In my original plan, Pageflow was only targetted after July. >>>> Pete, if one of your people can drive the pageflow migration, then I can >>>> be there to guide it. That way we can move it forward to april. >>>> >>> Yes, I think we can do that (I was assuming that was the plan anyway). >>> >>> >>>> Including jBPM 4 beta as part of your GA might not be a good idea. jBPM >>>> database schema will change. And that could cause serious upgrade problems >>>> for SEAM users using jBPM. Also upgrade from jBPM 3 to jBPM 4 will be >>>> impossible for now. >>>> >>> Can you tell us what the earliest release we should put in 2.2.0 is? And >>> roughly what date we can target? If we don't have time to do 2.2.0 and >>> 2.2.1, I guess we could do: >>> >>> Seam 2.2.0.BETA1 - Wednesday 22nd April >>> Seam 2.2.0.CR1 - Wednesday 13th May >>> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 17th June >>> >>> Tom and Anne-Louise, how do these dates fit your respective schedules? >>> >>> >>>> regards, tom. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Pete Muir wrote: >>>> >>>>> All, >>>>> This Drools upgrade, and a probable upgrade to jBPM 4 (happening due to >>>>> these products needed in the JBoss SOA platform 5, based on EAP 5, which in >>>>> turn includes Seam) mean that we need to make the release Seam 2.2 (which I >>>>> said would never happen, I know ;-) >>>>> Due to the concentration on Web Beans / Seam 3 there hasn't been a huge >>>>> amount of activity recently, however 2.2 will include: >>>>> * 112 issues closed (please direct your thanks to Norman here - he has >>>>> been soldiering away!) >>>>> * improvements to Seam-gen (Glassfish, IDEA etc.) from Dan >>>>> * big improvements to REST support - Christian and Jozef >>>>> * Drools and jBPM upgrades >>>>> So, I suggest that Norman and Marek (can you coordinate with each >>>>> other) handle the jBPM upgrade (Tom just released alpha2, and plans the GA >>>>> in the mid summer) - we should wait until there is a beta out I think for >>>>> Seam 2.2 GA... Tom, any rough guess when this will be? >>>>> Assuming Tom has a beta, I propose this schedule: >>>>> Seam 2.2.0 CR1 - Wednesday 22nd April >>>>> Seam 2.2.0 - Wednesday 13th May >>>>> Seam 2.2.1 CR1 - Wednesday 17th June >>>>> Seam 2.2.1 - Wednesday 8th July (hopefully just after the jBPM GA) >>>>> This will be the first time for time-boxing our releases too, something >>>>> we are doing for Web Beans, and will do for Seam3. >>>>> Anne-Louise, could you please comment on how these dates fit with EAP5 >>>>> component freezes? Will we be able to get 2.2.1 in? >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>>> From: "Stefano Travelli (JIRA)" <jira-events(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; >>>>>> Date: 18 March 2009 00:23:22 GMT >>>>>> To: pete.muir(a)jboss.org >>>>>> Subject: [JBoss JIRA] Commented: (JBSEAM-4011) Upgrade Drools >>>>>> framework integration to version 5 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [ >>>>>> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011?page=com.atlassian.jira.pl...] >>>>>> >>>>>> Stefano Travelli commented on JBSEAM-4011: >>>>>> ------------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as I know, drools 5 is not a drop in replacement of drools >>>>>> 4.0.7. Lots of dependencies change (mvel and antlr for instance) and most of >>>>>> all there are several API changes that make Seam after changeset #10170 not >>>>>> compatible with Drools 4 forcing a migration to Drools 5 in the run time >>>>>> environment of existing applications. >>>>>> >>>>>> At least, a detailed migration path for existing application is >>>>>> needed. However, even after accomplished all dependencies, rules in my >>>>>> application don't compile anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> Actually, in my opinion this upgrade is unfitted for a maintenance >>>>>> release of Seam. >>>>>> >>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to version 5 >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Key: JBSEAM-4011 >>>>>>> URL: https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4011 >>>>>>> Project: Seam >>>>>>> Issue Type: Feature Request >>>>>>> Components: Drools >>>>>>> Reporter: Marek Novotny >>>>>>> Assignee: Marek Novotny >>>>>>> Fix For: 2.1.2.CR1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Upgrade Drools framework integration to current development version >>>>>>> of Drools 5. It is now available 5.0.0.CR1 version. >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> This message is automatically generated by JIRA. >>>>>> - >>>>>> If you think it was sent incorrectly contact one of the >>>>>> administrators: >>>>>> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/secure/Administrators.jspa >>>>>> - >>>>>> For more information on JIRA, see: >>>>>> http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> Pete Muir >>>>> http://www.seamframework.org >>>>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> regards, tom. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> seam-dev mailing list >>>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >>>> >>> -- >>> Pete Muir >>> http://www.seamframework.org >>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seam-dev mailing list >>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >>> >> -- >> Pete Muir >> http://www.seamframework.org >> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >> >> _______________________________________________ >> seam-dev mailing list >> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >> > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev

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