Denis, Since the Red Hat shutdown just began, don't interpret silence on this thread as no response. You'll likely get some responses come Jan 4th. I'll give some responses as I see it, but expect more replies/clarification in due time. On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Denis Forveille <denis.forveille(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote: We are getting excited primarily to get some momentum behind Seam 3. In January things are really going to pick up. But it's a ways until we can really have something that comes near as complete as Seam 2 (meaning security, jbpm, drools, JSF, etc). We did discuss this in the Seam meeting last week. We are very likely going to be getting a release out in early 2010 (I don't know the estimated date) for reasons you cited and because we'll need changes anyway for the Seam 3 - Seam 2 bridging effort. I'm not sure. Stay tuned for a response on that. We understand that Java EE 6 is very cutting edge and migration to it will take time. As Gavin said on in.relation.to, if you already have a project in place or you need to deploy in the next couple months, Seam 2 is still a very solid choice. If you are looking further out, perhaps prototyping some projects, then EE 6 is definitely where you should be looking. (But you are going to have to mind the dust if you are tapping into Seam 3 modules, since they are in the early stages). Basically, don't confuse our excitement with abandonment. I think what you are looking for is some assurance for Seam 2 that haven't been clearly stated yet. It is our intention (from my understanding) that you will be able to continue to run Seam 2 applications on JBoss 6 (mixing Java EE, CDI, etc), which translates into bug fix releases. I think what you probably won't see in Seam 2 is new features (unless they are driven primarily by the community). It's important that you come forward with these requests. Obviously, we want to make sure we are headed in the right direction, at the right pace to suit the needs of the users. I'll ask again that you be patient for responses until after the holiday ;) Cheers, -Dan -- Dan Allen Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action Registered Linux User #231597 http://mojavelinux.com http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen

Hi Denis, As I've explained before, the full time engineers in Red Hat employ working on the open source project are busy working on Seam 3/CDI as it is our top priority - we can't really divert anyone to work on Seam 2 (note that Red Hat does offer a Seam 2.x product, which we continue to make fixes to for its lifecycle). Also of course community guys like yourself are able to work on whatever you like. However, there are clearly a few compatibility issues with JBoss AS 6 as well as a number of fixes others have put in. To this end, Norman is working on getting as many fixes as he can from JIRA into Seam (and also nagging others as needed), and we are aiming to do CR1 of Seam 2.2.1 by the end of the month. We'll take this release pretty slowly, probably aiming for another CR around March, and then a final release around April/May. So, please do try to get any fixes you can committed (for example take a look at the patches in JIRA), and feel free to nag others on the team if you need some advice about a patch or a fix - hopefully with the release schedule above you and others have some time to get these fixes in. Specifically, yes, we should archive 2.0.3 in JIRA (done). Norman has cleaned up 2.2.1 a bit, but more needs doing There will be no Seam 2.3 When I get a few hours spare (plus some extra patience ;-) I need to go through Seam JIRA and do a major cleanup, closing out redundant feature requests. On 23 Dec 2009, at 13:28, Denis Forveille wrote: