6:30 a.m.
Mark,
From the beginning (when you changed from Drools to Jboss Rules), I
have
always referred to the system as JBRULES - it is easy to see, easy to say,
and easy to write, so I vote for JBRULES.
Rich Halsey
"may you have fair seas, and a following wind"
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So it's over a year since we changed the name from Drools to JBoss
Rules. Personally I really dislike <Vendor Name> + <Generic Name> naming
schemes; especially so for Open Source projects. It's not the vendor
prefix I dislike, as that adds weight in corporate brand recognition,
but the generic postfix - leaving you no choice but to refer to the
project by the full name "JBoss Rules" in all communication and
throughout that communication; which I find tiresome. Where as ideally,
say in a presentation, you introduce the project as JBoss + <Strong
Name> first and then further references in your presentation can just
use the shortened <Strong name>; emails on the mailing list, being more
casual, can just drop to the shortened <Strong Name> straight away. It's
not just a lazyiness of having to use two words, but I feel it makes it
generally easier on the ears and eyes. With 4.0 coming up we have taken
the next steps into the world of Declarative programming, so was
thinking of JBoss DRules or JBoss D-Rules or JBoss drules - allowing the
DRules to be used standalone to refer to the project in more casual
communication. Anyone have any thoughts on a year of the "JBoss Rules"
name?
Mark
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--- Mark Proctor <mproctor(a)codehaus.org> wrote:
> Anyone have any thoughts on a year of
> the "JBoss Rules" name?
Well, when describing drools using the new name, I'd
often have this exchange:
me: It's "JBoss Rules"
them: It does?
me: What does?
them: JBoss.
me: Does what?
them: It..um...rules?
So I find the slang verb sense dominates the proper
noun sense, even in context. A name change would be
good.
GreG
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Currently it has more then 1 name and it's confusing.
The webpage says "jboss rules", but on the maven repo it's under
"drools", also the jars are called "drools" etc.
The JBoss namespace does matter:
- Most people think "Jboss Seam" only works on Jboss AS.
- While everyone knows "Hibernate" works on everything.
With kind regards,
Geoffrey De Smet
PS: I partially started working on drools-solver/taseree again :) I 'll
show some configuration on this list when it's finished.
Greg Barton wrote:
> --- Mark Proctor <mproctor(a)codehaus.org> wrote:
>
>> Anyone have any thoughts on a year of
>> the "JBoss Rules" name?
>
> Well, when describing drools using the new name, I'd
> often have this exchange:
>
> me: It's "JBoss Rules"
> them: It does?
> me: What does?
> them: JBoss.
> me: Does what?
> them: It..um...rules?
>
> So I find the slang verb sense dominates the proper
> noun sense, even in context. A name change would be
> good.
>
> GreG
>
>
>
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I pushed JBRules past marketting already, that one got tossed out too. I
too use JBRules, internally, to shorten it. However ultimiately it's
probably too much like JRules for comfort. We'd also end up calling it,
from the official marketting point of view, JBoss JBRules - which is a
bit of a mouthful. Ideally the second word is the same, whether you use
the JBoss prefix or not.
JBoss Magus, or JBoss QMagus - in referall to the orifinal meaning of
the word for "wise man". Magus, although will have to check for other
products in this area, although there are none that I know of.
Mark
Rich Halsey wrote:
Mark,
> From the beginning (when you changed from Drools to Jboss Rules), I have
always referred to the system as JBRULES - it is easy to see, easy to
say, and easy to write, so I vote for JBRULES.
Rich Halsey
"may you have fair seas, and a following wind"
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> So it's over a year since we changed the name from Drools to JBoss
> Rules. Personally I really dislike <Vendor Name> + <Generic Name> naming
> schemes; especially so for Open Source projects. It's not the vendor
> prefix I dislike, as that adds weight in corporate brand recognition,
> but the generic postfix - leaving you no choice but to refer to the
> project by the full name "JBoss Rules" in all communication and
> throughout that communication; which I find tiresome. Where as ideally,
> say in a presentation, you introduce the project as JBoss + <Strong
> Name> first and then further references in your presentation can just
> use the shortened <Strong name>; emails on the mailing list, being more
> casual, can just drop to the shortened <Strong Name> straight away. It's
> not just a lazyiness of having to use two words, but I feel it makes it
> generally easier on the ears and eyes. With 4.0 coming up we have taken
> the next steps into the world of Declarative programming, so was
> thinking of JBoss DRules or JBoss D-Rules or JBoss drules - allowing the
> DRules to be used standalone to refer to the project in more casual
> communication. Anyone have any thoughts on a year of the "JBoss
> Rules" name?
>
> Mark
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 18:24:13 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Greg Barton <greg_barton(a)yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [rules-dev] name
> To: Rules Dev List <rules-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
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>
> --- Mark Proctor <mproctor(a)codehaus.org> wrote:
>
>> Anyone have any thoughts on a year of
>> the "JBoss Rules" name?
>
> Well, when describing drools using the new name, I'd
> often have this exchange:
>
> me: It's "JBoss Rules"
> them: It does?
> me: What does?
> them: JBoss.
> me: Does what?
> them: It..um...rules?
>
> So I find the slang verb sense dominates the proper
> noun sense, even in context. A name change would be
> good.
>
> GreG
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:18:03 +0200
> From: Geoffrey De Smet <ge0ffrey.spam(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [rules-dev] name
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>
> Currently it has more then 1 name and it's confusing.
> The webpage says "jboss rules", but on the maven repo it's under
> "drools", also the jars are called "drools" etc.
>
> The JBoss namespace does matter:
> - Most people think "Jboss Seam" only works on Jboss AS.
> - While everyone knows "Hibernate" works on everything.
>
> With kind regards,
> Geoffrey De Smet
>
> PS: I partially started working on drools-solver/taseree again :) I 'll
> show some configuration on this list when it's finished.
>
> Greg Barton wrote:
>> --- Mark Proctor <mproctor(a)codehaus.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have any thoughts on a year of
>>> the "JBoss Rules" name?
>>
>> Well, when describing drools using the new name, I'd
>> often have this exchange:
>>
>> me: It's "JBoss Rules"
>> them: It does?
>> me: What does?
>> them: JBoss.
>> me: Does what?
>> them: It..um...rules?
>>
>> So I find the slang verb sense dominates the proper
>> noun sense, even in context. A name change would be
>> good.
>>
>> GreG
>>
>>
>>
>>
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