Our implementation is a light layer to provide "wait states" for one or
more rules, it uses a similar principle to agenda-groups (Clips modules)
to partition the execution. Activated rules are placed in temporary
buckets (rule-flow-groups), instead of onto the agenda, when the
rule-flow-group is activated the bucket empties onto the Agenda for
normal execution, when all the emptied rules are fired the next
rule-flow-groups are activated.
The system is still "parallel" in nature, in that the agenda is still
responsible for executing rules and the agenda can have more than one
rule on it at at time. In our implementation all the rules in the
rule-flow-group will be put onto the agenda for execution, at the same
time standard rules can also continue to be managed and executed by the
agenda, and agenda groups (clips modules) still continue to operate -
all in parallel.
A rule that is specified to execute as part of a rule-flow-group can
also be part of an agenda-group, but that use case is discouraged
because it can get quite hairy unless you really know what you are doing
:) As it means a rule-flow-group can be activated, the rules moved onto
their respective agenda-groups, where any rules not in agenda-groups
that do not have focus will not fire, the next rule-flow-group will not
activate untill all rules for the current rule-flow-group have fired,
regardless of the agenda-groups they are in.
The limitation at the moment is that the temporary bucket has no ability
to handle different start instances and differentiate between the rules
in it's bucket of the same rule-flow, but you can have multiple
different rule flows executing in parallel. We purposefuly kept it
simple for "version 1" to build up the functionality needed for rule
flow. The use cases for parallel execution of the same flow are not easy
- as one instance can catch up and over take another instance on the
same flow. Also if a rule in a rule-flow-group activates which of the
two current instances for the same rule flow are responsible for firing
it? The same issue arrises for when you have the same rule-flow-group in
multiple rule-flows. We are currently not sure how best to handle these
types of situations; maybe you could help us on those use cases? Or even
provide a patch :)
Mark
Rich Halsey wrote:
Hi Mark,
The part in the document where it says:
"At this point, ruleflow-groups should not be reused in more than one
ruleflow, and you should not
start a new instance of a process before the previous one has ended."
will be the weak link in the chain, i.e. there should not be any
reason why rule-flow-groups should not be reused nor having multiple
instances since rules are implicitly parallel in operation. This was
what I found to be the problem with ILOG's JRules back in the v4.0
edition. It turned JRules into a clunky procedural processing engine
(which was not what we needed at that time).
However, I am very proud to see that Jboss Rules (JBRules) has
successfully evolved to this point. You (and your team) are to be
commended for your efforts.
Tally-ho !!
Rich Halsey
"GENIUS IS THE ULTIMATE WEAPON"
....God grant me...
The senility to forget the people I never liked
The good fortune to run into the ones that I do
And the eyesight to tell the difference."
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mark Proctor <mailto:mproctor@redhat.com>
*To:* Rules Dev List <mailto:rules-dev@lists.jboss.org>
*Sent:* Monday, February 26, 2007 5:12 AM
*Subject:* RuleFlow preview
I thought everyone on the dev list would be interested in
reviewing and providing feedback on Kris' excellent work on
RuleFlow - includes screenshots :)
Mark
-------- Original Message --------
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 01:51:29 +0100
From: Kris Verlaenen <kris.verlaenen(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Ruleflow
I've attached a document describing how ruleflow is implemented /
could be used in the future. If anyone has got any suggestions or
improvements (on the API I'm proposing, or things you would like to
see differently), just let me know asap.
I think I'll be able to commit a first working version on svn soon.
Still have to include conditional connections (where a connection is
only selected if its condition evaluates to true), and some smaller
stuff.
Kris
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