At the time of your contributions to Drools and other projects you
were a Red Hat employee. The Red Hat legal department has determined that it has the right
to copy, modify and distribute your contributions under the Apache License version 2.0 and
considers this matter closed.
Richard didn't explain that.
I didn't use Red Hat time to fix those bugs, translate message resources. I believe
that "I am/was a Red Hat employee" doesn't matter. I'm not paid for the
task.
"At the time the code was contributed in good faith under the Apache license, you
cannot then decide at a later date to change your mind."
My understanding is that people just do not want to undone their contributions usually.
That is how OSS works.
Technically the copyright holder of translated message resources, program codes is the
originator.
I agreed to distribute my work under the ASL, but I didn't tell that I willingly give
away the copyright to the project.
Anybody who originates their work (i.e. the copyright holder) should be able to decide the
license at a later date.
Richard, any comment?
On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Michael Neale wrote:
So is the reason that there is a dispute over another copyright
holder? (ie these changes were copied in violation of that copyright in the first place) -
or a case of changing-minds about rights to the commits of the original work? (if the
latter then close the issue - nothing can or should be done - as it is a licencing issue
then, not a copyright issue, and as Mark says the licence doesn't permit that
revoking).
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Mark Proctor <mproctor(a)codehaus.org> wrote:
Yusuke,
At the time of your contributions to Drools and other projects you were a Red Hat
employee. The Red Hat legal department has determined that it has the right to copy,
modify and distribute your contributions under the Apache License version 2.0 and
considers this matter closed. If you have any further need to discuss this please do so
with Red Hat legal, - you have their contact details.
Even if you were not a Red Hat employee, which you were at the time, you cannot undo an
OSS code contribution, that is not how OSS licensing works. At the time the code was
contributed in good faith under the Apache license, you cannot then decide at a later date
to change your mind. The OSS licenses, be it ASL or LGPL or GPL, are designed specifically
to provide certainty in that area. Without this level of certainty end user OSS adoption
would be a minefield as every time developers fall out, which happens often, one could
demand all their code be removed and this would impact everyone who has invested time
installing that software in production systems.
Mark
On 31/08/2010 17:41, 山本 裕介 wrote:
>
> I have consulted RH legal dept. only to get no meaningful response.
> I guess Edson is the one who commit most of these files.
> The how and why they need to be uncommitted is attached to the Jira issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Yusuke
>
> On Sep 1, 2010, at 1:34 AM, Mauricio Salatino wrote:
>
>> Hi Yusuke, good question. I'm not sure where is the right place, but you are
only asking to rollback your changes right?
>> who commit all your contributions to the jboss repo?
>> I also saw that you mention: "For several reasons, I decided to withdraw
those contributions introduced from my spare time. "
>> can you mention those reasons? so we, as community can learn why you want to
remove your contributions. I'm just curious.
>> Greetings.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:50 PM, 山本 裕介 <yamamoyu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Where is the appropriate forum for copyright issues?
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Greg Barton wrote:
>>
>> > This is not the appropriate forum for copyrighgt issues.
>> >
>> > GreG
>> >
>> > On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:40, 山本 裕介 <yamamoyu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > There's a copyright violation issue on Drools 5.1 release.
>> > Please remove the changes listed in the following issue.
>> >
https://jira.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-2660
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Yusuke
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