2:27 p.m.
Hello!
I've learned from thiswillwill
post<http://blog.athico.com/2009/06/seam-drools-integration.html> that
there will be Drools Flow support in Seam. My team chose to use JBPM instead
of Drools Flow because of the poor integration between Drools Flow and Seam.
I'd like to know exactly what level of integration you guys are planning to
implement. Will there be features like process persistence managing and
Annotation-based management (Like @StartTask and the like) ? Is there any
guesses on how far in the future this integration is?
Thanks in advance!
--
Abraços
Raphael Duarte Paiva
Graduando em Ciência da Computação
"For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something
happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk
[...]" - Stephen Hawking, 1993
2:58 p.m.
Tihomir will probably answer you, but he sent me this a few min ago:
"
<tsurdilo> ok just a checklist of what i have integrated into seam so far
and to see if/what im missing:
<tsurdilo> 1. StatefulKnowledgeSession
<tsurdilo> 2. StatelessKnowldegeSession
<tsurdilo> 3. KnowledgeBase
<tsurdilo> 4. support for templates
<tsurdilo> 5. support for batch execution (on statefulknowledgesession)
<tsurdilo> 6. support for query results (on statefulknowledgesession)
<tsurdilo> 7. entry point support
"
He is working on all the integration, so if you want anything specific,
check with him if it is not in there already, or I am sure he is looking for
new ideas on how to improve/add to what is in there.
[]s
Edson
2009/8/26 Raphael Duarte Paiva <raphaeldpaiva(a)gmail.com>
Hello!
I've learned from thiswillwill
post<http://blog.athico.com/2009/06/seam-drools-integration.html> that
there will be Drools Flow support in Seam. My team chose to use JBPM instead
of Drools Flow because of the poor integration between Drools Flow and Seam.
I'd like to know exactly what level of integration you guys are planning to
implement. Will there be features like process persistence managing and
Annotation-based management (Like @StartTask and the like) ? Is there any
guesses on how far in the future this integration is?
Thanks in advance!
--
Abraços
Raphael Duarte Paiva
Graduando em Ciência da Computação
"For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something
happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk
[...]" - Stephen Hawking, 1993
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4:42 p.m.
Hello Raphael,
please add your comments and suggestions to
https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4260 as those are great inputs
to have. Currently we have a separate branch for Drools5 integration
(http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_2_Drools5/)
which will be soon merged into Seam3 trunk and then the work on 299
Beans can start :)
So far, as Edson mentioned, we have added new Seam components which can
be configured through components.xml. To show some examples:
a) creating a KnowledgeBase:
<drools:knowledge-base name="kbase"
knowledge-builder-config="kbuilderconfig.properties"
knowledge-base-config="kbaseconfig.properties">
<drools:rule-resources>
<value>classpath;numberguess.drl;DRL</value>
</drools:rule-resources>
<drools:event-listeners>
<value>org.drools.event.knowledgebase.DefaultKnowledgeBaseEventListener</value>
</drools:event-listeners>
</drools:knowledge-base>
a.2) creating a KnowledgeBase from a template and template data:
<drools:knowledge-base name="kbase4"
knowledge-builder-config="kbuilderconfig.properties"
knowledge-base-config="kbaseconfig.properties">
<drools:rule-resources>
<value>classpath;testtemplate.drl;DRL;testTemplateDataProvider</value>
</drools:rule-resources>
</drools:knowledge-base>
b) creating a KnowledgeAgent:
<drools:knowledge-agent name="kagent" agent-name="myAgent"
scan-resources="true" scan-directories="false"
monitor-change-set-events="true" scan-interval="30">
<drools:change-sets>
<value>classpath;numberguesschangeset.xml</value>
</drools:change-sets>
</drools:knowledge-agent>
c) creating a StatefulKnowledgeSession (similar for stateless):
<drools:stateful-knowledge-session name="ksession"
knowledge-base="#{kbase}"
knowledge-session-config="ksessionconfig.properties"
fact-provider="#{testFactProvider}"
audit-log="/home/tsurdilo/Desktop/ksession3">
<drools:event-listeners>
<value>org.drools.event.rule.DebugAgendaEventListener</value>
<value>org.drools.event.rule.DebugWorkingMemoryEventListener</value>
</drools:event-listeners>
</drools:stateful-knowledge-session>
d) creating batch execution results:
<drools:batch-execution name="batch1" ksession="#{ksession}"
batch-xml-config="testbatch.xml"/>
e) creating query results for a query name:
<drools:query-results name="queries1" ksession="#{ksession3}"
query-names="number_of_messages"/>
There is a number of new things we will be adding such as better flow
integration (with annotations as you mentioned) as well as a possible
alternative for pageflow using flow.
I will start blogging about this on seamframework.org as soon we have
the code moved to a Seam3 branch.
Keep the ideas coming and thanks for any comments :)
Thanks.
Tihomir
Edson Tirelli wrote:
Tihomir will probably answer you, but he sent me this a few min ago:
"
<tsurdilo> ok just a checklist of what i have integrated into seam so
far and to see if/what im missing:
<tsurdilo> 1. StatefulKnowledgeSession
<tsurdilo> 2. StatelessKnowldegeSession
<tsurdilo> 3. KnowledgeBase
<tsurdilo> 4. support for templates
<tsurdilo> 5. support for batch execution (on statefulknowledgesession)
<tsurdilo> 6. support for query results (on statefulknowledgesession)
<tsurdilo> 7. entry point support
"
He is working on all the integration, so if you want anything
specific, check with him if it is not in there already, or I am sure
he is looking for new ideas on how to improve/add to what is in there.
[]s
Edson
2009/8/26 Raphael Duarte Paiva <raphaeldpaiva(a)gmail.com
<mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com>>
Hello!
I've learned from thiswillwill post
<http://blog.athico.com/2009/06/seam-drools-integration.html> that
there will be Drools Flow support in Seam. My team chose to use
JBPM instead of Drools Flow because of the poor integration
between Drools Flow and Seam.
I'd like to know exactly what level of integration you guys are
planning to implement. Will there be features like process
persistence managing and Annotation-based management (Like
@StartTask and the like) ? Is there any guesses on how far in the
future this integration is?
Thanks in advance!
--
Abraços
Raphael Duarte Paiva
Graduando em Ciência da Computação
"For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then
something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination.
We learned to talk [...]" - Stephen Hawking, 1993
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12:57 p.m.
Hi!
I've been following seam commits and I am very happy to see that you guys
were quick on implementing the annotations =).
The JIRA openned (https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4260) will be
updated on this issue?
Best regards.
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 18:42, Tihomir Surdilovic <tsurdilo(a)redhat.com>wrote:
Hello Raphael,
please add your comments and suggestions to
https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4260 as those are great inputs
to have. Currently we have a separate branch for Drools5 integration
(http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_2_Drools5/)
which will be soon merged into Seam3 trunk and then the work on 299
Beans can start :)
So far, as Edson mentioned, we have added new Seam components which can
be configured through components.xml. To show some examples:
a) creating a KnowledgeBase:
<drools:knowledge-base name="kbase"
knowledge-builder-config="kbuilderconfig.properties"
knowledge-base-config="kbaseconfig.properties">
<drools:rule-resources>
<value>classpath;numberguess.drl;DRL</value>
</drools:rule-resources>
<drools:event-listeners>
<value>org.drools.event.knowledgebase.DefaultKnowledgeBaseEventListener</value>
</drools:event-listeners>
</drools:knowledge-base>
a.2) creating a KnowledgeBase from a template and template data:
<drools:knowledge-base name="kbase4"
knowledge-builder-config="kbuilderconfig.properties"
knowledge-base-config="kbaseconfig.properties">
<drools:rule-resources>
<value>classpath;testtemplate.drl;DRL;testTemplateDataProvider</value>
</drools:rule-resources>
</drools:knowledge-base>
b) creating a KnowledgeAgent:
<drools:knowledge-agent name="kagent" agent-name="myAgent"
scan-resources="true" scan-directories="false"
monitor-change-set-events="true" scan-interval="30">
<drools:change-sets>
<value>classpath;numberguesschangeset.xml</value>
</drools:change-sets>
</drools:knowledge-agent>
c) creating a StatefulKnowledgeSession (similar for stateless):
<drools:stateful-knowledge-session name="ksession"
knowledge-base="#{kbase}"
knowledge-session-config="ksessionconfig.properties"
fact-provider="#{testFactProvider}"
audit-log="/home/tsurdilo/Desktop/ksession3">
<drools:event-listeners>
<value>org.drools.event.rule.DebugAgendaEventListener</value>
<value>org.drools.event.rule.DebugWorkingMemoryEventListener</value>
</drools:event-listeners>
</drools:stateful-knowledge-session>
d) creating batch execution results:
<drools:batch-execution name="batch1" ksession="#{ksession}"
batch-xml-config="testbatch.xml"/>
e) creating query results for a query name:
<drools:query-results name="queries1" ksession="#{ksession3}"
query-names="number_of_messages"/>
There is a number of new things we will be adding such as better flow
integration (with annotations as you mentioned) as well as a possible
alternative for pageflow using flow.
I will start blogging about this on seamframework.org as soon we have
the code moved to a Seam3 branch.
Keep the ideas coming and thanks for any comments :)
Thanks.
Tihomir
Edson Tirelli wrote:
>
> Tihomir will probably answer you, but he sent me this a few min ago:
>
> "
> <tsurdilo> ok just a checklist of what i have integrated into seam so
> far and to see if/what im missing:
> <tsurdilo> 1. StatefulKnowledgeSession
> <tsurdilo> 2. StatelessKnowldegeSession
> <tsurdilo> 3. KnowledgeBase
> <tsurdilo> 4. support for templates
> <tsurdilo> 5. support for batch execution (on statefulknowledgesession)
> <tsurdilo> 6. support for query results (on statefulknowledgesession)
> <tsurdilo> 7. entry point support
> "
>
> He is working on all the integration, so if you want anything
> specific, check with him if it is not in there already, or I am sure
> he is looking for new ideas on how to improve/add to what is in there.
>
> []s
> Edson
>
>
> 2009/8/26 Raphael Duarte Paiva <raphaeldpaiva(a)gmail.com
> <mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com>>
>
> Hello!
>
> I've learned from thiswillwill post
> <http://blog.athico.com/2009/06/seam-drools-integration.html> that
> there will be Drools Flow support in Seam. My team chose to use
> JBPM instead of Drools Flow because of the poor integration
> between Drools Flow and Seam.
>
> I'd like to know exactly what level of integration you guys are
> planning to implement. Will there be features like process
> persistence managing and Annotation-based management (Like
> @StartTask and the like) ? Is there any guesses on how far in the
> future this integration is?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --
> Abraços
> Raphael Duarte Paiva
> Graduando em Ciência da Computação
>
> "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then
> something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination.
> We learned to talk [...]" - Stephen Hawking, 1993
>
>
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>
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>
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> JBoss Drools Core Development
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Raphael Duarte Paiva
Graduando em Ciência da Computação
"For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then something
happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk
[...]" - Stephen Hawking, 1993
12:54 p.m.
Hello Raphael, we are currently discussing creating an unified set of
BPM annotations which can drive both jBPM and Drools-Flow
implementations. What has been checked in so far might change soon :)
but I am currently moving forward with it and testing it until a
decision has been made on the unified annotation set. Will update
JBSEAM-4260 as soon as anything concrete comes out .
Thanks.
Tihomir
Raphael Duarte Paiva wrote:
Hi!
I've been following seam commits and I am very happy to see that you
guys were quick on implementing the annotations =).
The JIRA openned (https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4260) will
be updated on this issue?
Best regards.
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 18:42, Tihomir Surdilovic <tsurdilo(a)redhat.com
<mailto:tsurdilo@redhat.com>> wrote:
Hello Raphael,
please add your comments and suggestions to
https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4260 as those are great
inputs
to have. Currently we have a separate branch for Drools5 integration
(http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_2_Drools5/)
which will be soon merged into Seam3 trunk and then the work on 299
Beans can start :)
So far, as Edson mentioned, we have added new Seam components
which can
be configured through components.xml. To show some examples:
a) creating a KnowledgeBase:
<drools:knowledge-base name="kbase"
knowledge-builder-config="kbuilderconfig.properties"
knowledge-base-config="kbaseconfig.properties">
<drools:rule-resources>
<value>classpath;numberguess.drl;DRL</value>
</drools:rule-resources>
<drools:event-listeners>
<value>org.drools.event.knowledgebase.DefaultKnowledgeBaseEventListener</value>
</drools:event-listeners>
</drools:knowledge-base>
a.2) creating a KnowledgeBase from a template and template data:
<drools:knowledge-base name="kbase4"
knowledge-builder-config="kbuilderconfig.properties"
knowledge-base-config="kbaseconfig.properties">
<drools:rule-resources>
<value>classpath;testtemplate.drl;DRL;testTemplateDataProvider</value>
</drools:rule-resources>
</drools:knowledge-base>
b) creating a KnowledgeAgent:
<drools:knowledge-agent name="kagent" agent-name="myAgent"
scan-resources="true" scan-directories="false"
monitor-change-set-events="true" scan-interval="30">
<drools:change-sets>
<value>classpath;numberguesschangeset.xml</value>
</drools:change-sets>
</drools:knowledge-agent>
c) creating a StatefulKnowledgeSession (similar for stateless):
<drools:stateful-knowledge-session name="ksession"
knowledge-base="#{kbase}"
knowledge-session-config="ksessionconfig.properties"
fact-provider="#{testFactProvider}"
audit-log="/home/tsurdilo/Desktop/ksession3">
<drools:event-listeners>
<value>org.drools.event.rule.DebugAgendaEventListener</value>
<value>org.drools.event.rule.DebugWorkingMemoryEventListener</value>
</drools:event-listeners>
</drools:stateful-knowledge-session>
d) creating batch execution results:
<drools:batch-execution name="batch1" ksession="#{ksession}"
batch-xml-config="testbatch.xml"/>
e) creating query results for a query name:
<drools:query-results name="queries1" ksession="#{ksession3}"
query-names="number_of_messages"/>
There is a number of new things we will be adding such as better flow
integration (with annotations as you mentioned) as well as a possible
alternative for pageflow using flow.
I will start blogging about this on seamframework.org
<http://seamframework.org> as soon we have
the code moved to a Seam3 branch.
Keep the ideas coming and thanks for any comments :)
Thanks.
Tihomir
Edson Tirelli wrote:
>
> Tihomir will probably answer you, but he sent me this a few
min ago:
>
> "
> <tsurdilo> ok just a checklist of what i have integrated into
seam so
> far and to see if/what im missing:
> <tsurdilo> 1. StatefulKnowledgeSession
> <tsurdilo> 2. StatelessKnowldegeSession
> <tsurdilo> 3. KnowledgeBase
> <tsurdilo> 4. support for templates
> <tsurdilo> 5. support for batch execution (on
statefulknowledgesession)
> <tsurdilo> 6. support for query results (on
statefulknowledgesession)
> <tsurdilo> 7. entry point support
> "
>
> He is working on all the integration, so if you want anything
> specific, check with him if it is not in there already, or I am sure
> he is looking for new ideas on how to improve/add to what is in
there.
>
> []s
> Edson
>
>
> 2009/8/26 Raphael Duarte Paiva <raphaeldpaiva(a)gmail.com
<mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com>
> <mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com
<mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com>>>
>
> Hello!
>
> I've learned from thiswillwill post
>
<http://blog.athico.com/2009/06/seam-drools-integration.html> that
> there will be Drools Flow support in Seam. My team chose to use
> JBPM instead of Drools Flow because of the poor integration
> between Drools Flow and Seam.
>
> I'd like to know exactly what level of integration you guys are
> planning to implement. Will there be features like process
> persistence managing and Annotation-based management (Like
> @StartTask and the like) ? Is there any guesses on how far
in the
> future this integration is?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --
> Abraços
> Raphael Duarte Paiva
> Graduando em Ciência da Computação
>
> "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals.
Then
> something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination.
> We learned to talk [...]" - Stephen Hawking, 1993
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> rules-dev mailing list
> rules-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-dev@lists.jboss.org>
<mailto:rules-dev@lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-dev@lists.jboss.org>>
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-dev
>
>
>
>
> --
> Edson Tirelli
> JBoss Drools Core Development
> JBoss by Red Hat @ www.jboss.com <http://www.jboss.com>
<http://www.jboss.com>
>
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11:57 a.m.
Hello!
It has been some time and i'm curious to know if there was any advancements
in this topic.
best regards!
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 15:54, Tihomir Surdilovic <tsurdilo(a)redhat.com>wrote:
Hello Raphael, we are currently discussing creating an unified set
of
BPM annotations which can drive both jBPM and Drools-Flow
implementations. What has been checked in so far might change soon :)
but I am currently moving forward with it and testing it until a
decision has been made on the unified annotation set. Will update
JBSEAM-4260 as soon as anything concrete comes out .
Thanks.
Tihomir
Raphael Duarte Paiva wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I've been following seam commits and I am very happy to see that you
> guys were quick on implementing the annotations =).
>
> The JIRA openned (https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4260) will
> be updated on this issue?
>
> Best regards.
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 18:42, Tihomir Surdilovic <tsurdilo(a)redhat.com
> <mailto:tsurdilo@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello Raphael,
>
> please add your comments and suggestions to
> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4260 as those are great
> inputs
> to have. Currently we have a separate branch for Drools5 integration
> (
http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_2_Drools5/)
> which will be soon merged into Seam3 trunk and then the work on 299
> Beans can start :)
>
> So far, as Edson mentioned, we have added new Seam components
> which can
> be configured through components.xml. To show some examples:
>
> a) creating a KnowledgeBase:
>
> <drools:knowledge-base name="kbase"
> knowledge-builder-config="kbuilderconfig.properties"
> knowledge-base-config="kbaseconfig.properties">
> <drools:rule-resources>
> <value>classpath;numberguess.drl;DRL</value>
> </drools:rule-resources>
> <drools:event-listeners>
>
>
<value>org.drools.event.knowledgebase.DefaultKnowledgeBaseEventListener</value>
> </drools:event-listeners>
> </drools:knowledge-base>
>
> a.2) creating a KnowledgeBase from a template and template data:
>
> <drools:knowledge-base name="kbase4"
> knowledge-builder-config="kbuilderconfig.properties"
> knowledge-base-config="kbaseconfig.properties">
> <drools:rule-resources>
>
>
<value>classpath;testtemplate.drl;DRL;testTemplateDataProvider</value>
> </drools:rule-resources>
> </drools:knowledge-base>
>
> b) creating a KnowledgeAgent:
>
> <drools:knowledge-agent name="kagent"
agent-name="myAgent"
> scan-resources="true" scan-directories="false"
> monitor-change-set-events="true"
scan-interval="30">
> <drools:change-sets>
> <value>classpath;numberguesschangeset.xml</value>
> </drools:change-sets>
> </drools:knowledge-agent>
>
> c) creating a StatefulKnowledgeSession (similar for stateless):
>
> <drools:stateful-knowledge-session name="ksession"
> knowledge-base="#{kbase}"
> knowledge-session-config="ksessionconfig.properties"
> fact-provider="#{testFactProvider}"
> audit-log="/home/tsurdilo/Desktop/ksession3">
> <drools:event-listeners>
>
> <value>org.drools.event.rule.DebugAgendaEventListener</value>
>
>
<value>org.drools.event.rule.DebugWorkingMemoryEventListener</value>
> </drools:event-listeners>
> </drools:stateful-knowledge-session>
>
> d) creating batch execution results:
>
> <drools:batch-execution name="batch1"
ksession="#{ksession}"
> batch-xml-config="testbatch.xml"/>
>
> e) creating query results for a query name:
>
> <drools:query-results name="queries1"
ksession="#{ksession3}"
> query-names="number_of_messages"/>
>
> There is a number of new things we will be adding such as better flow
> integration (with annotations as you mentioned) as well as a possible
> alternative for pageflow using flow.
>
> I will start blogging about this on seamframework.org
> <http://seamframework.org> as soon we have
> the code moved to a Seam3 branch.
>
> Keep the ideas coming and thanks for any comments :)
>
> Thanks.
> Tihomir
>
>
> Edson Tirelli wrote:
> >
> > Tihomir will probably answer you, but he sent me this a few
> min ago:
> >
> > "
> > <tsurdilo> ok just a checklist of what i have integrated into
> seam so
> > far and to see if/what im missing:
> > <tsurdilo> 1. StatefulKnowledgeSession
> > <tsurdilo> 2. StatelessKnowldegeSession
> > <tsurdilo> 3. KnowledgeBase
> > <tsurdilo> 4. support for templates
> > <tsurdilo> 5. support for batch execution (on
> statefulknowledgesession)
> > <tsurdilo> 6. support for query results (on
> statefulknowledgesession)
> > <tsurdilo> 7. entry point support
> > "
> >
> > He is working on all the integration, so if you want anything
> > specific, check with him if it is not in there already, or I am
sure
> > he is looking for new ideas on how to improve/add to what is in
> there.
> >
> > []s
> > Edson
> >
> >
> > 2009/8/26 Raphael Duarte Paiva <raphaeldpaiva(a)gmail.com
> <mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com>
> > <mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com
<mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com>>>
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > I've learned from thiswillwill post
> >
> <http://blog.athico.com/2009/06/seam-drools-integration.html> that
> > there will be Drools Flow support in Seam. My team chose to use
> > JBPM instead of Drools Flow because of the poor integration
> > between Drools Flow and Seam.
> >
> > I'd like to know exactly what level of integration you guys are
> > planning to implement. Will there be features like process
> > persistence managing and Annotation-based management (Like
> > @StartTask and the like) ? Is there any guesses on how far
> in the
> > future this integration is?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > --
> > Abraços
> > Raphael Duarte Paiva
> > Graduando em Ciência da Computação
> >
> > "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals.
> Then
> > something happened which unleashed the power of our
imagination.
> > We learned to talk [...]" - Stephen Hawking, 1993
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> > JBoss Drools Core Development
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happened which unleashed the power of our imagination. We learned to talk
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12:05 p.m.
I know we also talked to the seam team about drools doing non-linear
flows using rules too, which interested them. However I think Tihomir
has been swamped recently, so progress has been slow. Definitely a good
set of tasks for a community member to get involved in :)
Mark
Raphael Duarte Paiva wrote:
Hello!
It has been some time and i'm curious to know if there was any
advancements in this topic.
best regards!
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 15:54, Tihomir Surdilovic <tsurdilo(a)redhat.com
<mailto:tsurdilo@redhat.com>> wrote:
Hello Raphael, we are currently discussing creating an unified set of
BPM annotations which can drive both jBPM and Drools-Flow
implementations. What has been checked in so far might change soon :)
but I am currently moving forward with it and testing it until a
decision has been made on the unified annotation set. Will update
JBSEAM-4260 as soon as anything concrete comes out .
Thanks.
Tihomir
Raphael Duarte Paiva wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I've been following seam commits and I am very happy to see that you
> guys were quick on implementing the annotations =).
>
> The JIRA openned
(https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4260) will
> be updated on this issue?
>
> Best regards.
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 18:42, Tihomir Surdilovic
<tsurdilo(a)redhat.com <mailto:tsurdilo@redhat.com>
> <mailto:tsurdilo@redhat.com <mailto:tsurdilo@redhat.com>>>
wrote:
>
> Hello Raphael,
>
> please add your comments and suggestions to
> https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBSEAM-4260 as those are
great
> inputs
> to have. Currently we have a separate branch for Drools5
integration
>
(http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_2_Drools5/)
> which will be soon merged into Seam3 trunk and then the work
on 299
> Beans can start :)
>
> So far, as Edson mentioned, we have added new Seam components
> which can
> be configured through components.xml. To show some examples:
>
> a) creating a KnowledgeBase:
>
> <drools:knowledge-base name="kbase"
> knowledge-builder-config="kbuilderconfig.properties"
> knowledge-base-config="kbaseconfig.properties">
> <drools:rule-resources>
> <value>classpath;numberguess.drl;DRL</value>
> </drools:rule-resources>
> <drools:event-listeners>
>
>
<value>org.drools.event.knowledgebase.DefaultKnowledgeBaseEventListener</value>
> </drools:event-listeners>
> </drools:knowledge-base>
>
> a.2) creating a KnowledgeBase from a template and template data:
>
> <drools:knowledge-base name="kbase4"
> knowledge-builder-config="kbuilderconfig.properties"
> knowledge-base-config="kbaseconfig.properties">
> <drools:rule-resources>
>
>
<value>classpath;testtemplate.drl;DRL;testTemplateDataProvider</value>
> </drools:rule-resources>
> </drools:knowledge-base>
>
> b) creating a KnowledgeAgent:
>
> <drools:knowledge-agent name="kagent"
agent-name="myAgent"
> scan-resources="true" scan-directories="false"
> monitor-change-set-events="true"
scan-interval="30">
> <drools:change-sets>
> <value>classpath;numberguesschangeset.xml</value>
> </drools:change-sets>
> </drools:knowledge-agent>
>
> c) creating a StatefulKnowledgeSession (similar for stateless):
>
> <drools:stateful-knowledge-session name="ksession"
> knowledge-base="#{kbase}"
> knowledge-session-config="ksessionconfig.properties"
> fact-provider="#{testFactProvider}"
> audit-log="/home/tsurdilo/Desktop/ksession3">
> <drools:event-listeners>
>
> <value>org.drools.event.rule.DebugAgendaEventListener</value>
>
>
<value>org.drools.event.rule.DebugWorkingMemoryEventListener</value>
> </drools:event-listeners>
> </drools:stateful-knowledge-session>
>
> d) creating batch execution results:
>
> <drools:batch-execution name="batch1"
ksession="#{ksession}"
> batch-xml-config="testbatch.xml"/>
>
> e) creating query results for a query name:
>
> <drools:query-results name="queries1"
ksession="#{ksession3}"
> query-names="number_of_messages"/>
>
> There is a number of new things we will be adding such as
better flow
> integration (with annotations as you mentioned) as well as a
possible
> alternative for pageflow using flow.
>
> I will start blogging about this on seamframework.org
<http://seamframework.org>
> <http://seamframework.org> as soon we have
> the code moved to a Seam3 branch.
>
> Keep the ideas coming and thanks for any comments :)
>
> Thanks.
> Tihomir
>
>
> Edson Tirelli wrote:
> >
> > Tihomir will probably answer you, but he sent me this a few
> min ago:
> >
> > "
> > <tsurdilo> ok just a checklist of what i have integrated into
> seam so
> > far and to see if/what im missing:
> > <tsurdilo> 1. StatefulKnowledgeSession
> > <tsurdilo> 2. StatelessKnowldegeSession
> > <tsurdilo> 3. KnowledgeBase
> > <tsurdilo> 4. support for templates
> > <tsurdilo> 5. support for batch execution (on
> statefulknowledgesession)
> > <tsurdilo> 6. support for query results (on
> statefulknowledgesession)
> > <tsurdilo> 7. entry point support
> > "
> >
> > He is working on all the integration, so if you want
anything
> > specific, check with him if it is not in there already, or
I am sure
> > he is looking for new ideas on how to improve/add to what
is in
> there.
> >
> > []s
> > Edson
> >
> >
> > 2009/8/26 Raphael Duarte Paiva <raphaeldpaiva(a)gmail.com
<mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com>
> <mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com
<mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com>>
> > <mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com
<mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com> <mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com
<mailto:raphaeldpaiva@gmail.com>>>>
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > I've learned from thiswillwill post
> >
>
<http://blog.athico.com/2009/06/seam-drools-integration.html> that
> > there will be Drools Flow support in Seam. My team
chose to use
> > JBPM instead of Drools Flow because of the poor
integration
> > between Drools Flow and Seam.
> >
> > I'd like to know exactly what level of integration you
guys are
> > planning to implement. Will there be features like process
> > persistence managing and Annotation-based management (Like
> > @StartTask and the like) ? Is there any guesses on how far
> in the
> > future this integration is?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > --
> > Abraços
> > Raphael Duarte Paiva
> > Graduando em Ciência da Computação
> >
> > "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the
animals.
> Then
> > something happened which unleashed the power of our
imagination.
> > We learned to talk [...]" - Stephen Hawking, 1993
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Edson Tirelli
> > JBoss Drools Core Development
> > JBoss by Red Hat @ www.jboss.com <http://www.jboss.com>
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> Graduando em Ciência da Computação
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> "For millions of years, mankind lived just like the animals. Then
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> learned to talk [...]" - Stephen Hawking, 1993
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