6:46 p.m.
So it's over a year since we changed the name from Drools to JBoss
Rules. Personally I really dislike <Vendor Name> + <Generic Name> naming
schemes; especially so for Open Source projects. It's not the vendor
prefix I dislike, as that adds weight in corporate brand recognition,
but the generic postfix - leaving you no choice but to refer to the
project by the full name "JBoss Rules" in all communication and
throughout that communication; which I find tiresome. Where as ideally,
say in a presentation, you introduce the project as JBoss + <Strong
Name> first and then further references in your presentation can just
use the shortened <Strong name>; emails on the mailing list, being more
casual, can just drop to the shortened <Strong Name> straight away. It's
not just a lazyiness of having to use two words, but I feel it makes it
generally easier on the ears and eyes. With 4.0 coming up we have taken
the next steps into the world of Declarative programming, so was
thinking of JBoss DRules or JBoss D-Rules or JBoss drules - allowing the
DRules to be used standalone to refer to the project in more casual
communication. Anyone have any thoughts on a year of the "JBoss Rules" name?
Mark
8:24 p.m.
--- Mark Proctor <mproctor(a)codehaus.org> wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts on a year of
the "JBoss Rules" name?
Well, when describing drools using the new name, I'd
often have this exchange:
me: It's "JBoss Rules"
them: It does?
me: What does?
them: JBoss.
me: Does what?
them: It..um...rules?
So I find the slang verb sense dominates the proper
noun sense, even in context. A name change would be
good.
GreG
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6:18 a.m.
Currently it has more then 1 name and it's confusing.
The webpage says "jboss rules", but on the maven repo it's under
"drools", also the jars are called "drools" etc.
The JBoss namespace does matter:
- Most people think "Jboss Seam" only works on Jboss AS.
- While everyone knows "Hibernate" works on everything.
With kind regards,
Geoffrey De Smet
PS: I partially started working on drools-solver/taseree again :) I 'll
show some configuration on this list when it's finished.
Greg Barton wrote:
--- Mark Proctor <mproctor(a)codehaus.org> wrote:
> Anyone have any thoughts on a year of
> the "JBoss Rules" name?
Well, when describing drools using the new name, I'd
often have this exchange:
me: It's "JBoss Rules"
them: It does?
me: What does?
them: JBoss.
me: Does what?
them: It..um...rules?
So I find the slang verb sense dominates the proper
noun sense, even in context. A name change would be
good.
GreG
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11:01 a.m.
Yes the idea was to have "Drools" as the project name and "JBoss
Rules"
as the product name. But I don't think that's working out too well. What
is the project and what is the product? The two overlap too much for it
not to be confusing.
So anyone got any simple good names? Or one possability is to use "JBoss
Drools", allowing us to use Drools everywhere, but marketting can use
the "JBoss" prefix in their material - although at the time of the
original rebranding Drools was considered a little controversial as some
people had issues with it's childish innuendos. Dropping the JBoss part
altogether is not really a possability, that branding side is just too
valueable to the people that make all this possible :) Also on the
corporate side the JBoss branding association really helps with
adoption. But atleast whether you refer to it as "JBoss Drools" or just
"Drools" people will know what you are talking about.
Mark
Geoffrey De Smet wrote:
Currently it has more then 1 name and it's confusing.
The webpage says "jboss rules", but on the maven repo it's under
"drools", also the jars are called "drools" etc.
The JBoss namespace does matter:
- Most people think "Jboss Seam" only works on Jboss AS.
- While everyone knows "Hibernate" works on everything.
With kind regards,
Geoffrey De Smet
PS: I partially started working on drools-solver/taseree again :) I
'll show some configuration on this list when it's finished.
Greg Barton wrote:
> --- Mark Proctor <mproctor(a)codehaus.org> wrote:
>
>> Anyone have any thoughts on a year of
>> the "JBoss Rules" name?
>
> Well, when describing drools using the new name, I'd
> often have this exchange:
>
> me: It's "JBoss Rules"
> them: It does?
> me: What does?
> them: JBoss.
> me: Does what?
> them: It..um...rules?
>
> So I find the slang verb sense dominates the proper
> noun sense, even in context. A name change would be
> good.
>
> GreG
>
>
>
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1:44 p.m.
--- Mark Proctor <mproctor(a)codehaus.org> wrote:
at the time of the
original rebranding Drools was considered a little
controversial as some
people had issues with it's childish innuendos.
Don't they know that childish innuendo is the name of
the open source game? It's the home of "GNUs Not
Unix" after all. And I think "JBoss Rules" can be
just as goofy sounding. At least with "JBoss Drools"
you get the brand recognition, and "JBoss DRules" is
just as good.
GreG
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