10:01 a.m.
Guys,
I've said this before, and I'll say it again. I don't think deleting
threads or accounts (except in the case of duplicates) with little
warning to the user is reasonable if they are in breach of the forum
policy. I think we should change this policy to locking an account and
sending an email if they aren't following policy. Ideally this would
be automated with a button on the user account page - is this possible
Christian?
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Date: 27 October 2008 14:35:29 GMT
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Subject: [seam-forums] Unprofessional forum management
This new topic was posted by N Winters:
The management of this forum appears quite unprofessional. I signed
up a few days ago and posted a detailed question. I received a
follow up (thank you) and I posted some follows to that. The thread
was quite alive and I spent some time making detailed posts. Today I
find my account has been deleted and the thread I had spent time on
was also gone. Apparently this has something to do with the fact
that I signed up with my initials instead of a full name? There was
no warning for this action, now I am out the time and effort I've
spent on my thread and as a new SEAM user left with a bad taste in
my mouth.
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12:22 p.m.
Agreed, it seems like in this case the guy didn't mean to do anything
"bad".
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)bleepbleep.org.uk> wrote:
Guys,
I've said this before, and I'll say it again. I don't think deleting threads
or accounts (except in the case of duplicates) with little warning to the
user is reasonable if they are in breach of the forum policy. I think we
should change this policy to locking an account and sending an email if they
aren't following policy. Ideally this would be automated with a button on
the user account page - is this possible Christian?
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From: N Winters <do-not-reply(a)jboss.com>
Date: 27 October 2008 14:35:29 GMT
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Subject: [seam-forums] Unprofessional forum management
This new topic was posted by N Winters:
________________________________
The management of this forum appears quite unprofessional. I signed up a few
days ago and posted a detailed question. I received a follow up (thank you)
and I posted some follows to that. The thread was quite alive and I spent
some time making detailed posts. Today I find my account has been deleted
and the thread I had spent time on was also gone. Apparently this has
something to do with the fact that I signed up with my initials instead of a
full name? There was no warning for this action, now I am out the time and
effort I've spent on my thread and as a new SEAM user left with a bad taste
in my mouth.
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12:51 p.m.
On Oct 27, 2008, at 18:22 , Gavin King wrote:
Agreed, it seems like in this case the guy didn't mean to do
anything "bad".
Folks, of course he was told to use a real name. He not only ignored
it but decided to set the name back to an acronym again. And his
thread was NOT "alive". And no, besides locking them out without a
message we currently don't have any other viable option in the
software. A user ban feature has not been necessary so far! The real
name notice actually works well 99% of the time - which shows that
most people appreciate the rules of a community they just joined.
Ignore the exceptions...
Also, he just posted the exact same content again and this time he
actually used his real name. So nothing lost, no problem.
If you want the "programm0r" forum posters we can remove the real name
policy completely. I have been really really surprised how well it
worked though and the Seam forum content is mostly good quality -
maybe because of that. It makes a difference if your future employers
can Google your incompetence level ;)
We are evaluating a move to the upcoming new jboss.org forums, maybe
we then have more options such as in-community messages, banning, etc.
12:59 p.m.
OK, so basically he lied to Pete.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Christian Bauer
<christian.bauer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 27, 2008, at 18:22 , Gavin King wrote:
> Agreed, it seems like in this case the guy didn't mean to do anything
> "bad".
Folks, of course he was told to use a real name. He not only ignored it but
decided to set the name back to an acronym again. And his thread was NOT
"alive". And no, besides locking them out without a message we currently
don't have any other viable option in the software. A user ban feature has
not been necessary so far! The real name notice actually works well 99% of
the time - which shows that most people appreciate the rules of a community
they just joined. Ignore the exceptions...
Also, he just posted the exact same content again and this time he actually
used his real name. So nothing lost, no problem.
If you want the "programm0r" forum posters we can remove the real name
policy completely. I have been really really surprised how well it worked
though and the Seam forum content is mostly good quality - maybe because of
that. It makes a difference if your future employers can Google your
incompetence level ;)
We are evaluating a move to the upcoming new jboss.org forums, maybe we then
have more options such as in-community messages, banning, etc.
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1:33 p.m.
I think the policy is correct, I just think we should be more visible
in how we implement. As Christian says, hopefully the new jboss.org
forums will have more options in this area.
Pete
On 27 Oct 2008, at 17:59, Gavin King wrote:
OK, so basically he lied to Pete.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Christian Bauer
<christian.bauer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Oct 27, 2008, at 18:22 , Gavin King wrote:
>
>> Agreed, it seems like in this case the guy didn't mean to do
>> anything
>> "bad".
>
> Folks, of course he was told to use a real name. He not only
> ignored it but
> decided to set the name back to an acronym again. And his thread
> was NOT
> "alive". And no, besides locking them out without a message we
> currently
> don't have any other viable option in the software. A user ban
> feature has
> not been necessary so far! The real name notice actually works well
> 99% of
> the time - which shows that most people appreciate the rules of a
> community
> they just joined. Ignore the exceptions...
>
> Also, he just posted the exact same content again and this time he
> actually
> used his real name. So nothing lost, no problem.
>
> If you want the "programm0r" forum posters we can remove the real
> name
> policy completely. I have been really really surprised how well it
> worked
> though and the Seam forum content is mostly good quality - maybe
> because of
> that. It makes a difference if your future employers can Google your
> incompetence level ;)
>
> We are evaluating a move to the upcoming new jboss.org forums,
> maybe we then
> have more options such as in-community messages, banning, etc.
>
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