Pete Muir wrote: > I fought quite extensively over this and I'm not really prepared to > spend (waste) any more time on it. > > TBH, I'm not even sure that anyone from EJB3/AS/MC actually gets what > this feature actually is and why it is important *. The main > discussion the EJB3/AS/MC guys wanted to have seemed to be over who > was to "blame" for Seam apps not running on AS5, a discussion which I > have absolutely no interest in pursuing *. I think we get the feature and know why we all want it. I keep running into similar issues myself (http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=132269). But currently we're at a stalemate here and I'm out of moves. > In fact, this whole discussion (and other similar ones) left me > pretty sour in the mouth. The general impression I got was that Seam > as a vehicle for pushing EJB3 wasn't interesting for the EJB3 guys, > from which I formed the conclusion that we would probably be better > off concentrating on the Seam JavaBean component model. > > And so, if anyone else wants to pick up the AS5 integration > work/liaison from me, please do! > > * There are a couple of exceptions to this of course > > On 29 Mar 2008, at 14:25, Gavin King wrote: >> >> Agreed, we definitely can't say that Seam supports JBoss5 until this >> feature is back in. You got my vote. >> One of the critical selling features of Seam is that no XML is >> required to declare a component. >> >> Anyway, this feature will be in the next rev of EJB. Either you mean JavaEE or I missed something. I don't see it in the latest EJB3.1 draft, maybe it should be raised? Carlo >> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Dan Allen <dan.j.allen(a)gmail.com&gt; >> wrote: >>> >>>> From an interop perspective this feature is a good seperator with >>>> other containers, especially for beginers. >>>> >>>> Not worrying about populating web.XML makes learning and getting >>>> started easier. >>>> >>>> My $0.02 >>>> Jay >>> >>> I'm a little late to the game with this response, but I want to point >>> out that a number of Seam/JBoss developers cited this feature while >>> bragging about why JBoss AS is better than alternative application >>> servers. By taking the feature away, it results mouths stuffed with >>> feet. Besides, "configuration by exception" is the very saving grace >>> of the platform and this is a prime candidate for such a pattern. >>> >>> My dime. Sent from a computer I don't own. >>> >>> -Dan >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Gavin King >> gavin.king(a)gmail.com >> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Gavin >> http://hibernate.org >> http://seamframework.org > > > > -- > Pete Muir > http://www.seamframework.org > http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete > > > >