Its true that OData is a really good protocol, in the sense that it is more
an 'application' layer over HTTP and I've been inspired by that. This way
this proposal is also a meta-protocol over HTTP and paths are built along
the lines of URI paths like:
/someSubject[path]/somePredicate[path]/someObject[path]
in the realm of some domain. Posted paths and metadata (referrer) are
submitted through request body and headers. Let me work a while for real
examples.
I think I've missed some important part for the 'application' layer (as
HTML is for the 'document' oriented web) that is the 'representation'
part
of the resource. This paragraph added to the document (incomplete, confuse,
questionable due this hypermedia approach) tries to address the issue:
"Representations (requesting client metamodel resources) are built upon
aggregating and aligning protocol dialog 'path' resources into data (Fact,
Event), information (Kind, Rule) and knowledge / behavior (Class, Flow) in
the requesting node, maybe by multiple ‘posts’ / traversals of activated
contexts. Those are the same models which get 'activated' in the requested
side by means of async messages IO."
This is all but a incomplete draft of thoughts. Please be patient if bother
in reading.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIAf4HsHuLS...
Regards,
Sebastián.
On Aug 23, 2017 4:56 PM, "Paul Houle" <paul.houle(a)ontology2.com> wrote:
Neat stuff.
The design covers a wide range but it does so very thinly. I would like
to see a critical path identified and fleshed out in more detail,
something along the lines of a research proposal, plan for a commercial
product, or even a really cool demo.
As for protocol, thought #1 is that it is hard to introduce an entirely
new protocol because of the "two sided market" problem. A "good
enough"
protocol which gives you the data you need is better than a great protocol
which has no data. You should look at OData as an example of a protocol
that is well specified as opposed to GraphQL and see that the "one ring to
bind them all" is really a system that can master all of the protocols.
The rest of the world can (and will) do as it will.
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Subject: [DBpedia-discussion] Protocol
Hi, newbie question again: what if a 'protocol' can be regarded as an
issue for the 'data web' as there is one for the traditional 'document
web'. The question is: does the design issues (ex.: RESTful application
design patterns) of a document resource centric web holds (or at least part
of them) for the concept of a 'data web' only because it relies in the same
protocol / patterns (HTTP).
See attached file (or Protocol section in the link) for a first (confuse /
abstract / questionable) set of thoughts in the subject:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OqsVn6uo0cr6qruzWj9yRASrmvAIA
f4HsHuLS2aRSy8/edit?usp=drivesdk
Best Regards,
Sebastián.