Re: [seam-dev] BI integration

Any links to their (opensource) Eclipse stuff ? I couldn't find it on their website... /max > Hi Max, > the pentaho "suite" is distributed as a modified eclipse containing > the report designer, > and another one to create action sequences. > They can all be installed as plugins, or as prepackaged eclipses (as > Developer Studio) > coming with a ready-to-start JBoss preconfigured as a BI server, with > schedulers and > all needed stuff. > > Sanne > > 2008/10/16 Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen(a)redhat.com&gt;: >> >> BIRT has good Eclipse editing facilities...but has a really bad runtime >> size/setup. >> >> What does Pentaho and JasperReport have in context of Eclipse integration >> ? >> >> /max >> >>> please, don't forget Pentaho. >>> they were looking very good already, and are improving a lot and at a >>> very fast pace. >>> additionally they have strong bounds with JBoss, as it's the default >>> platform. >>> >>> Sanne >>> >>> 2008/10/13 Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt;: >>>> >>>> So, I guess the question is, do we want to do Jasper or BIRT? >>>> On 13 Oct 2008, at 20:48, Dan Allen wrote: >>>> >>>> Pete, >>>> >>>> I think the main focus here is on the responsibility of who creates the >>>> reports. The excel stuff is superb for developers who need to create >>>> reports >>>> for management, etc. The BI is about management designing the reports >>>> and >>>> the developers feeding the parameters to it from the UI (and all the >>>> security and context that goes along with it). >>>> >>>> The main focus for this relationship, and the one we should keep in >>>> mind >>>> when designing it, is that you want to try to break the need to wait on >>>> the >>>> developer to get a report through the system. Not only does this slow >>>> things >>>> down, it ties up developer resources. At my previous job, we had a huge >>>> problem with this because there was a neverending need to customize >>>> reports >>>> for customers and thus the process was not scalable. BI is about >>>> putting >>>> the >>>> consumers (or designers) of the reports in control. >>>> >>>> -Dan >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Snjezana has written some BIRT/Seam integration. But it needs a way to >>>>> be >>>>> used outside of Eclipse (she has no ant or maven targets, you must >>>>> build >>>>> your project with Eclipse). >>>>> >>>>> But anyway, what does this offer over Seam PDF/Excel w/ VPE support? >>>>> >>>>> On 13 Oct 2008, at 19:47, Dan Allen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I've brought up this point informally a couple of times, but I want >>>>>> to >>>>>> make a more formal statement. I think we need to put some sort of BI >>>>>> integration on the roadmap, mostly likely being with JasperReports. >>>>>> Perhaps we can start brainstorming on how this integration might look >>>>>> and then create some JIRAs for those features. For example, here's an >>>>>> article on how Spring integrates with JasperReports. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://java.dzone.com/articles/spring-web-mvc-spring-web-flow >>>>>> >>>>>> My intention is not to try to outdo Spring, but rather to say that we >>>>>> need to offer something native within Seam. I just spoke to former >>>>>> colleagues last week and they are using JasperServer with JSF, but >>>>>> mentioned that they had to do some glue code to get it all working >>>>>> together. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Dan >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dan Allen >>>>>> Software consultant | Author of Seam in Action >>>>>> >>>>>> http://mojavelinux.com >>>>>> http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction >>>>>> >>>>>> NOTE: While I make a strong effort to keep up with my email on a >>>>>> daily >>>>>> basis, personal or other work matters can sometimes keep me away >>>>>> from my email. 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