my point is that the current infrastructure is ineffective and inadequate. If we are
building the best damn framework then let's use the best damn tools to assist us with
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From: Gavin King <gavin.king(a)gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:34:11
To: Piotr Steininger<piotr.steininger(a)gmail.com>
Cc: Dan Allen<dan.j.allen(a)gmail.com>; Seam Mailing
Subject: Re: [seam-dev] Seam 3 space on JBoss Community
Piotr I'm not talking about the separate site for Weld, which I think
is on balance a good idea, and I've supported doing from the start.
What I'm talking about is the proposal to migrate seamframework.org
off of our own infrastructure and onto jboss.org
I've already vetoed that idea, and I'm frankly disappointed that we're
wasting further time on that.
We should move ahead with creating a Weld website based on the Seam
Wiki infrastructure. I really don't know what the holdup is.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Piotr Steininger
I know you have strong feelings about this, but you can't judge the site
based on one botched migration. (I also missed the discussion you're
I think Dan speaks for the community as a whole, and I have to agree with
has a lot of information in it, but finding things on
it when I needed something was like pulling teeth. It needs to get better,
otherwise it's another barrier to adoption and another barrier in building a
Please take into account that what may be a good option is to leave the
current site as is and move anything Seam 3 and Weld related to SBS. Better
yet start from scratch and do it right, since we have an unprecedented
opportunity to do so right now.
There is already much of the older forums migrated into SBS anyway.
Another point is that the dev team is in a business of developing a next-gen
framework/programming model and fostering the community around it and not in
a business of building community software. Jive has years of headway on this
and they got a great product, which is free for this community.
So my vote is +1 for starting a Seam 3 and Weld/CDI projects on
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Gavin King <gavin.king(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Gavin King <gavin.king(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > For those who want to see what a mess this would be, go check out the
> > new, broken, hibernate.
> Gavin King
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