Re: [seam-dev] BI integration

please, don't forget Pentaho. they were looking very good already, and are improving a lot and at a very fast pace. additionally they have strong bounds with JBoss, as it's the default platform. Sanne 2008/10/13 Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt;: > So, I guess the question is, do we want to do Jasper or BIRT? > On 13 Oct 2008, at 20:48, Dan Allen wrote: > > Pete, > > I think the main focus here is on the responsibility of who creates the > reports. The excel stuff is superb for developers who need to create reports > for management, etc. The BI is about management designing the reports and > the developers feeding the parameters to it from the UI (and all the > security and context that goes along with it). > > The main focus for this relationship, and the one we should keep in mind > when designing it, is that you want to try to break the need to wait on the > developer to get a report through the system. Not only does this slow things > down, it ties up developer resources. At my previous job, we had a huge > problem with this because there was a neverending need to customize reports > for customers and thus the process was not scalable. BI is about putting the > consumers (or designers) of the reports in control. > > -Dan > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >> Snjezana has written some BIRT/Seam integration. But it needs a way to be >> used outside of Eclipse (she has no ant or maven targets, you must build >> your project with Eclipse). >> >> But anyway, what does this offer over Seam PDF/Excel w/ VPE support? >> >> On 13 Oct 2008, at 19:47, Dan Allen wrote: >> >>> I've brought up this point informally a couple of times, but I want to >>> make a more formal statement. I think we need to put some sort of BI >>> integration on the roadmap, mostly likely being with JasperReports. >>> Perhaps we can start brainstorming on how this integration might look >>> and then create some JIRAs for those features. For example, here's an >>> article on how Spring integrates with JasperReports. >>> >>> http://java.dzone.com/articles/spring-web-mvc-spring-web-flow >>> >>> My intention is not to try to outdo Spring, but rather to say that we >>> need to offer something native within Seam. I just spoke to former >>> colleagues last week and they are using JasperServer with JSF, but >>> mentioned that they had to do some glue code to get it all working >>> together. >>> >>> -Dan >>> >>> -- >>> Dan Allen >>> Software consultant | Author of Seam in Action >>> >>> http://mojavelinux.com >>> http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction >>> >>> NOTE: While I make a strong effort to keep up with my email on a daily >>> basis, personal or other work matters can sometimes keep me away >>> from my email. If you contact me, but don't hear back for more than a >>> week, >>> it is very likely that I am excessively backlogged or the message was >>> caught in the spam filters. Please don't hesitate to resend a message if >>> you feel that it did not reach my attention. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seam-dev mailing list >>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >> > > > > -- > Dan Allen > Software consultant | Author of Seam in Action > > http://mojavelinux.com > http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction > > NOTE: While I make a strong effort to keep up with my email on a daily > basis, personal or other work matters can sometimes keep me away > from my email. If you contact me, but don't hear back for more than a week, > it is very likely that I am excessively backlogged or the message was > caught in the spam filters. Please don't hesitate to resend a message if > you feel that it did not reach my attention. > > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > >