Re: [seam-dev] BI integration

So for me this look like a Swing app adapted to eclipse and the source code is not easily available anywhere. Plus it is not an eclipse plugin, but an Eclipse application ;(

/max > There isn't much, but I found a wiki page on the Pentaho Design > Studio, which I believe is what the Eclipse plugin is called. > > http://wiki.pentaho.com/display/studio/Getting+Started+with+Design+Studio > > -Dan > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Max Rydahl Andersen > <max.andersen(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> Any links to their (opensource) Eclipse stuff ? I couldn't find it on >> their >> website... >> >> /max >> >>> Hi Max, >>> the pentaho "suite" is distributed as a modified eclipse containing >>> the report designer, >>> and another one to create action sequences. >>> They can all be installed as plugins, or as prepackaged eclipses (as >>> Developer Studio) >>> coming with a ready-to-start JBoss preconfigured as a BI server, with >>> schedulers and >>> all needed stuff. >>> >>> Sanne >>> >>> 2008/10/16 Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen(a)redhat.com&gt;: >>>> >>>> BIRT has good Eclipse editing facilities...but has a really bad >>>> runtime >>>> size/setup. >>>> >>>> What does Pentaho and JasperReport have in context of Eclipse >>>> integration >>>> ? >>>> >>>> /max >>>> >>>>> please, don't forget Pentaho. >>>>> they were looking very good already, and are improving a lot and at >>>>> a >>>>> very fast pace. >>>>> additionally they have strong bounds with JBoss, as it's the default >>>>> platform. >>>>> >>>>> Sanne >>>>> >>>>> 2008/10/13 Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt;: >>>>>> >>>>>> So, I guess the question is, do we want to do Jasper or BIRT? >>>>>> On 13 Oct 2008, at 20:48, Dan Allen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Pete, >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the main focus here is on the responsibility of who >>>>>> creates the >>>>>> reports. The excel stuff is superb for developers who need to >>>>>> create >>>>>> reports >>>>>> for management, etc. The BI is about management designing the >>>>>> reports >>>>>> and >>>>>> the developers feeding the parameters to it from the UI (and all >>>>>> the >>>>>> security and context that goes along with it). >>>>>> >>>>>> The main focus for this relationship, and the one we should keep in >>>>>> mind >>>>>> when designing it, is that you want to try to break the need to >>>>>> wait on >>>>>> the >>>>>> developer to get a report through the system. Not only does this >>>>>> slow >>>>>> things >>>>>> down, it ties up developer resources. At my previous job, we had a >>>>>> huge >>>>>> problem with this because there was a neverending need to customize >>>>>> reports >>>>>> for customers and thus the process was not scalable. BI is about >>>>>> putting >>>>>> the >>>>>> consumers (or designers) of the reports in control. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Dan >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Snjezana has written some BIRT/Seam integration. But it needs a >>>>>>> way to >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> used outside of Eclipse (she has no ant or maven targets, you must >>>>>>> build >>>>>>> your project with Eclipse). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But anyway, what does this offer over Seam PDF/Excel w/ VPE >>>>>>> support? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13 Oct 2008, at 19:47, Dan Allen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've brought up this point informally a couple of times, but I >>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> make a more formal statement. I think we need to put some sort >>>>>>>> of BI >>>>>>>> integration on the roadmap, mostly likely being with >>>>>>>> JasperReports. >>>>>>>> Perhaps we can start brainstorming on how this integration might >>>>>>>> look >>>>>>>> and then create some JIRAs for those features. For example, >>>>>>>> here's an >>>>>>>> article on how Spring integrates with JasperReports. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://java.dzone.com/articles/spring-web-mvc-spring-web-flow >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My intention is not to try to outdo Spring, but rather to say >>>>>>>> that we >>>>>>>> need to offer something native within Seam. I just spoke to >>>>>>>> former >>>>>>>> colleagues last week and they are using JasperServer with JSF, >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> mentioned that they had to do some glue code to get it all >>>>>>>> working >>>>>>>> together. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Dan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dan Allen >>>>>>>> Software consultant | Author of Seam in Action >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://mojavelinux.com >>>>>>>> http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> NOTE: While I make a strong effort to keep up with my email on a >>>>>>>> daily >>>>>>>> basis, personal or other work matters can sometimes keep me away >>>>>>>> from my email. If you contact me, but don't hear back for more >>>>>>>> than a >>>>>>>> week, >>>>>>>> it is very likely that I am excessively backlogged or the >>>>>>>> message was >>>>>>>> caught in the spam filters. 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