[seam-dev] Dependency nightmares

Hello, I am using Seam outside of the 'seam-gen give me some megbyte of libs approach' using only a minimal set of libs required to have a seam app running. IMHO dependencies should be minimized to allow better intregration in all directions as well. Frontend Frameworks, Persistence -> we are currently seeing the alternative provider discussion, backend -> Integration with whatever. A blank Seam app requires even if not using transaction management and not using JPA the following libs ejb-api.jar persistence-api.jar hibernate-commons-annotations.jar hibernate-validator.jar (OK we use it for validation but ...) -- which in turn requires hibernate.jar And I haven't checked all possible use cases. So there might be even more. What do you think? Best Regards Sebastian Hennebrueder