A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and then contribute them back to us. The proposal is to use Github to host. The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? Pete -- Pete Muir http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev

On 21 Nov 2009, at 14:15, Steven Boscarine wrote: > Works for me, personally. > > As an outsider, it's obviously more friendly for non-JBoss employees > like me to contribute. I am still waiting on someone to tag those Weld > Maven archetypes I submitted so I can commit to trunk for review without > worrying about breaking anything. With git, that wouldn't be an issue. You are welcome to tag whenever you want :-) But I agree, GIT supports distributed development much better.

A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and then contribute them back to us. The proposal is to use Github to host. The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? Pete -- Pete Muir http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev

An interesting comparision?: http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/ Francisco Jose Peredo escribió: > I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty > complicated to learn to use... > OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it > confortable... apparently the > way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion users > to understand... > AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it > seems to work > well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, > Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg > project is advanced and usable... > Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... > Why not Mercurial? > > > > Pete Muir escribió: >> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to >> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. >> >> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev >> model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and >> then contribute them back to us. >> >> The proposal is to use Github to host. >> >> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? >> >> Pete >> >> -- >> Pete Muir >> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >> _______________________________________________ >> seam-dev mailing list >> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >> >> > > -- Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación penal y civil vigente. _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev

See my old thread on thecore about how geeky git is compared to mercurial. Basically Mercurial is natural to SVN users. GIT is natural to bearded unix people. That being said, GIT is quite popular and the tools tend to follow. On 24 nov. 09, at 15:33, Pete Muir wrote: > I have seen a reasonable amount of GIT, and have liked what I saw, > as have most of the other core team who have spoken up on this issue. > > Sell us Mercurial :-) > > On 24 Nov 2009, at 14:22, Francisco Jose Peredo wrote: > >> An interesting comparision?: >> >> http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/ >> >> >> Francisco Jose Peredo escribió: >>> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty >>> complicated to learn to use... >>> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found >>> it >>> confortable... apparently the >>> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion >>> users >>> to understand... >>> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it >>> seems to work >>> well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, >>> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg >>> project is advanced and usable... >>> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... >>> Why not Mercurial? >>> >>> >>> >>> Pete Muir escribió: >>>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to >>>> switch to >>>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. >>>> >>>> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued >>>> dev >>>> model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox >>>> PEs and >>>> then contribute them back to us. >>>> >>>> The proposal is to use Github to host. >>>> >>>> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others >>>> think? >>>> >>>> Pete >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Pete Muir >>>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> seam-dev mailing list >>>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros >> Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental >> Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas >> Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma >> C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. >> Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 >> http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ >> >> IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, >> archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información >> confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la >> Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida po >> r el >> derecho fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta >> información por cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional >> o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta transmisión electrónica >> por >> error, por favor responda inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta >> información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, distribución o >> reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores no >> intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y >> puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación p >> enal >> y civil vigente. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> seam-dev mailing list >> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > weld-dev mailing list > weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev

We all agreed to use git over svn, but to be honest, mercurial wasn't considered. I've used both as well. But in my short exposure, I really didn't see a difference. What makes git so attractive is that github.com <http://github.com> explains so well how to use it. I supposed we could consider mercurcial if there was a nice out of the box hosting option like github.com <http://github.com>;. If not, git will likely win because of that. -Dan On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com <mailto:pmuir@redhat.com>> wrote: I have seen a reasonable amount of GIT, and have liked what I saw, as have most of the other core team who have spoken up on this issue. Sell us Mercurial :-) On 24 Nov 2009, at 14:22, Francisco Jose Peredo wrote: > An interesting comparision?: > > http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/ > > > Francisco Jose Peredo escribió: >> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty >> complicated to learn to use... >> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it >> confortable... apparently the >> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion users >> to understand... >> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it >> seems to work >> well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, >> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg >> project is advanced and usable... >> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... >> Why not Mercurial? >> >> >> >> Pete Muir escribió: >>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to >>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. >>> >>> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev >>> model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and >>> then contribute them back to us. >>> >>> The proposal is to use Github to host. >>> >>> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? >>> >>> Pete >>> >>> -- >>> Pete Muir >>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seam-dev mailing list >>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org> >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ > > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación penal y civil vigente. > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:weld-dev@lists.jboss.org> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev -- Dan Allen Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action Registered Linux User #231597 http://mojavelinux.com http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen

+1 for git/github. Echoing what others have said, I think github is ultimately what makes git the most attractive, all things considered. Github makes it incredibly easy to fork and propose pushes.  Google code seems to be better suited for smaller projects, even though google uses it for their even larger projects. For an open source project with outside contributors, it's essential to have a good "hub" - and github serves that purpose extremely well. Just my 15 cents (inflation). Ashish PS: I'm tempted to further splinter this debate by proposing Bazaar :) (with Ubuntu's launchpad) On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Francisco Jose Peredo <franciscoperedo(a)tabasco.gob.mx&gt; wrote: > > A nice out of the box hosting option for Mercurial? I think I mentioned > GoogleCode... or there are many options to choose: > > http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MercurialHosting > > Dan Allen escribió: > > We all agreed to use git over svn, but to be honest, mercurial wasn't > considered. I've used both as well. But in my short exposure, I really > didn't see a difference. What makes git so attractive is that github.com > explains so well how to use it. > > I supposed we could consider mercurcial if there was a nice out of the box > hosting option like github.com. If not, git will likely win because of that. > > -Dan > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >> I have seen a reasonable amount of GIT, and have liked what I saw, as >> have most of the other core team who have spoken up on this issue. >> >> Sell us Mercurial :-) >> >> On 24 Nov 2009, at 14:22, Francisco Jose Peredo wrote: >> >> > An interesting comparision?: >> > >> > http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/ >> > >> > >> > Francisco Jose Peredo escribió: >> >> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty >> >> complicated to learn to use... >> >> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it >> >> confortable... apparently the >> >> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion users >> >> to understand... >> >> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it >> >> seems to work >> >> well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, >> >> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg >> >> project is advanced and usable... >> >> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... >> >> Why not Mercurial? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Pete Muir escribió: >> >>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to >> >>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. >> >>> >> >>> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev >> >>> model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs >> >>> and >> >>> then contribute them back to us. >> >>> >> >>> The proposal is to use Github to host. >> >>> >> >>> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? >> >>> >> >>> Pete >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Pete Muir >> >>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> seam-dev mailing list >> >>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros >> > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental >> > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas >> > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma >> > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. >> > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 >> > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ >> > >> > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, >> > archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información >> > confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la >> > Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho >> > fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por >> > cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha >> > recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda >> > inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, >> > diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica >> > por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está >> > autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación >> > penal y civil vigente. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > seam-dev mailing list >> > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> weld-dev mailing list >> weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev > > > > -- > Dan Allen > Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action > Registered Linux User #231597 > > http://mojavelinux.com > http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction > http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen > > > -- > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ > > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, archivos > insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información confidencial o > reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la Información Pública del > Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho fundamental a la > privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por cualquier persona > distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta > transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda inmediatamente al > emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, > distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores > no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y puede > considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación penal y civil > vigente. > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev

On 24 Nov 2009, at 18:34, lightguard.jp(a)gmail.com wrote: > I've looked at both and the one major difference is the branching model in hg. Many people have coined it "broken" but those may all be in the past. As far as tooling goes I think you'll find decent support either way. Would Fisheye and JIRA still be used or would the services of the host be used instead? That may also be something to consider. We would continue to use JIRA. I guess we wouldn't use fisheye anymore. _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev

Personally, I've never found fisheye useful.

+1 for git/github. Echoing what others have said, I think github is ultimately what makes git the most attractive, all things considered. Github makes it incredibly easy to fork and propose pushes. Google code seems to be better suited for smaller projects, even though google uses it for their even larger projects. For an open source project with outside contributors, it's essential to have a good "hub" - and github serves that purpose extremely well. Just my 15 cents (inflation). Ashish PS: I'm tempted to further splinter this debate by proposing Bazaar :) (with Ubuntu's launchpad) On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Francisco Jose Peredo <franciscoperedo(a)tabasco.gob.mx&gt; wrote: A nice out of the box hosting option for Mercurial? I think I mentioned GoogleCode... or there are many options to choose: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MercurialHosting Dan Allen escribió: > We all agreed to use git over svn, but to be honest, mercurial wasn't considered. I've used both as well. But in my short exposure, I really didn't see a difference. What makes git so attractive is that github.com explains so well how to use it. > > I supposed we could consider mercurcial if there was a nice out of the box hosting option like github.com. If not, git will likely win because of that. > > -Dan > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > I have seen a reasonable amount of GIT, and have liked what I saw, as have most of the other core team who have spoken up on this issue. > > Sell us Mercurial :-) > > On 24 Nov 2009, at 14:22, Francisco Jose Peredo wrote: > > > An interesting comparision?: > > > > http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/ > > > > > > Francisco Jose Peredo escribió: > >> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty > >> complicated to learn to use... > >> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it > >> confortable... apparently the > >> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion users > >> to understand... > >> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it > >> seems to work > >> well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, > >> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg > >> project is advanced and usable... > >> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... > >> Why not Mercurial? > >> > >> > >> > >> Pete Muir escribió: > >>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to > >>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. > >>> > >>> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev > >>> model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and > >>> then contribute them back to us. > >>> > >>> The proposal is to use Github to host. > >>> > >>> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? > >>> > >>> Pete > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Pete Muir > >>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> seam-dev mailing list > >>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros > > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental > > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas > > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma > > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. > > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 > > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ > > > > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación penal y civil vigente. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > seam-dev mailing list > > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > weld-dev mailing list > weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev > > > > -- > Dan Allen > Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action > Registered Linux User #231597 > > http://mojavelinux.com > http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction > http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen -- Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación penal y civil vigente. _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev

Note that this article is courtesy of No Fluff Just Stuff Magazine. I encourage all of you to check out that magazine because it's own of very few (if not the only) decent OSS developer magazine these days. The subscription is $50/year and all the authors are NFJS speakers. -Dan On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > Here is an article about GIT for those getting started. > > > > > > On 24 Nov 2009, at 16:07, Ashish Tonse wrote: > > > +1 for git/github. > > > > Echoing what others have said, I think github is ultimately what makes > git the most attractive, all things considered. Github makes it incredibly > easy to fork and propose pushes. > > > > Google code seems to be better suited for smaller projects, even though > google uses it for their even larger projects. For an open source project > with outside contributors, it's essential to have a good "hub" - and github > serves that purpose extremely well. > > > > Just my 15 cents (inflation). > > > > Ashish > > PS: I'm tempted to further splinter this debate by proposing Bazaar :) > (with Ubuntu's launchpad) > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Francisco Jose Peredo < > franciscoperedo(a)tabasco.gob.mx&gt; wrote: > > A nice out of the box hosting option for Mercurial? I think I mentioned > GoogleCode... or there are many options to choose: > > > > http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/MercurialHosting > > > > Dan Allen escribió: > >> We all agreed to use git over svn, but to be honest, mercurial wasn't > considered. I've used both as well. But in my short exposure, I really > didn't see a difference. What makes git so attractive is that github.comexplains so well how to use it. > >> > >> I supposed we could consider mercurcial if there was a nice out of the > box hosting option like github.com. If not, git will likely win because > of that. > >> > >> -Dan > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> I have seen a reasonable amount of GIT, and have liked what I saw, as > have most of the other core team who have spoken up on this issue. > >> > >> Sell us Mercurial :-) > >> > >> On 24 Nov 2009, at 14:22, Francisco Jose Peredo wrote: > >> > >> > An interesting comparision?: > >> > > >> > http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/ > >> > > >> > > >> > Francisco Jose Peredo escribió: > >> >> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty > >> >> complicated to learn to use... > >> >> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it > >> >> confortable... apparently the > >> >> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion > users > >> >> to understand... > >> >> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it > >> >> seems to work > >> >> well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, > >> >> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg > >> >> project is advanced and usable... > >> >> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... > >> >> Why not Mercurial? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Pete Muir escribió: > >> >>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch > to > >> >>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. > >> >>> > >> >>> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev > >> >>> model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs > and > >> >>> then contribute them back to us. > >> >>> > >> >>> The proposal is to use Github to host. > >> >>> > >> >>> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others > think? > >> >>> > >> >>> Pete > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> Pete Muir > >> >>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> seam-dev mailing list > >> >>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > >> >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros > >> > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental > >> > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas > >> > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma > >> > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. > >> > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 > >> > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ > >> > > >> > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, > archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información > confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la > Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho > fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por > cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha > recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda > inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, > diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica > por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está > autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación > penal y civil vigente. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > seam-dev mailing list > >> > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> weld-dev mailing list > >> weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Dan Allen > >> Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action > >> Registered Linux User #231597 > >> > >> http://mojavelinux.com > >> http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction > >> http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen > > > > > > -- > > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros > > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental > > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas > > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma > > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. > > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 > > > > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ > > > > > > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, > archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información > confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la > Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho > fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por > cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha > recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda > inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, > diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica > por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está > autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación > penal y civil vigente. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > seam-dev mailing list > > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > weld-dev mailing list > > weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > > -- Dan Allen Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action Registered Linux User #231597 http://mojavelinux.com http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen

We all agreed to use git over svn, but to be honest, mercurial wasn't considered. I've used both as well. But in my short exposure, I really didn't see a difference. What makes git so attractive is that github.com explains so well how to use it. I supposed we could consider mercurcial if there was a nice out of the box hosting option like github.com. If not, git will likely win because of that. -Dan On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: I have seen a reasonable amount of GIT, and have liked what I saw, as have most of the other core team who have spoken up on this issue. Sell us Mercurial :-) On 24 Nov 2009, at 14:22, Francisco Jose Peredo wrote: > An interesting comparision?: > > http://importantshock.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/git-vs-mercurial/ > > > Francisco Jose Peredo escribió: >> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty >> complicated to learn to use... >> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it >> confortable... apparently the >> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion users >> to understand... >> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it >> seems to work >> well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, >> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg >> project is advanced and usable... >> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... >> Why not Mercurial? >> >> >> >> Pete Muir escribió: >>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to >>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. >>> >>> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev >>> model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and >>> then contribute them back to us. >>> >>> The proposal is to use Github to host. >>> >>> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? >>> >>> Pete >>> >>> -- >>> Pete Muir >>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seam-dev mailing list >>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ > > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación penal y civil vigente. > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev -- Dan Allen Senior Software Engineer, Red Hat | Author of Seam in Action Registered Linux User #231597 http://mojavelinux.com http://mojavelinux.com/seaminaction http://www.google.com/profiles/dan.j.allen _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev

I also just created a bitbucket account, which seems to offer everything that github does. Francisco's article makes good reading, and especially as we are all used to SVN, SVN compatible commands are a good idea ;-) Finally, migration to Mercurial looks possible from SVN, and tool support looks fine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 Linus Torvalds: "If you like using CVS, you should be in a mental institution, somewhere else." @ 08:30 he likes bitkeeper (commercial) and doesn't like SVN. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Boscarine, Steven <Steven.Boscarine(a)childrens.harvard.edu&gt; wrote: > > +1 vote for Git > I've seen a lot of Git momentum locally. > > ________________________________________ > From: weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org [weld-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org] > On Behalf Of Mark Struberg [struberg(a)yahoo.de] > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 1:07 PM > To: Jason Lee; Pete Muir > Cc: Francisco Jose Peredo; seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org; > weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > Subject: Re: [weld-dev] [seam-dev] Mercurial vs GIT > > Hi! > > While both hg and Git provide pretty the same functionality, there is a > huge difference in the supported tooling set. > > .) maven will (most probably) move to Git. Most of maven folks already use > Git internally. > .) there is a native Java Git client called JGit. There will be a jgit > provider for maven in the not too distant future. Thus we don't need to care > about OS issues! > .) hg is written in Python. Windows users will need to install Python. For > git you don't have to install anything. The JGit jar will simply be a > dependency of maven-scm. > .) There are native plugins for Eclipse (written by Shawn Spearce), > NetBeans (written by Jonas Fonesca) and Idea (provided by Intellij). > > And the main reason for my personally: Im an old bearded Unix guy :) > > Btw, there is also a migration scenario from SVN to Git. It is even > possible to let Git play being a SVN server, so you can access a Git repo > with a SVN client. > > LieGrue, > strub > _______________________________________________ > weld-dev mailing list > weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev _______________________________________________ weld-dev mailing list weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/weld-dev

A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and then contribute them back to us. The proposal is to use Github to host. The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? Pete -- Pete Muir http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev

1) I have not tried GIT... 2) Comparing Mercurial and SVN, for me, is like comparing an nightmare and ease of use. There is a Mercurial plugin for Eclipse, but it's really no good. We experienced some bugs at work with it (DivideByZero), submitted a patch but... Still nothing has happened... I've tried meld, kdiff3 and the tortoise thingy for windows, but still I always end up with command line because things don't work. Also there is really no good way of branching. Named branches is a MESS so even the hg team thinks it's better to crete to different clones and then manually merge them. (See their manual) One other thing I'd like to say is that having a distr. repo may sound really fancy, but it's rarely needed. Although being spread over different offices all over the world, that feature is never really needed at my work. And the really really really few times it is, you could just as well make an ordinary patch, and give it to the other person. However, there have been many times when hours has been wasted when trying to resolve issues when two people have worked in our root repo at the same time. Just my 10 öre... Daniel On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Stuart Douglas < stuart(a)baileyroberts.com.au&gt; wrote: > As I understand it GIT support on windows is not good, and also just > having a quick google around it looks like the tooling support is not very > mature either. Also the commands are different to subversions commands so > there is quite a steep learning curve. > I like bazaar, it uses the same commands as subversion, works on all > platforms and has eclipse and windows support. It also has launchpad, which > is the bzr equivalent of github. > > Stuart > ________________________________________ > From: seam-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org [seam-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org] > On Behalf Of Francisco Jose Peredo [franciscoperedo(a)tabasco.gob.mx] > Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2009 1:17 AM > To: seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > Cc: weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > Subject: Re: [seam-dev] Mercurial vs GIT > > I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty complicated > to learn to use... > OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it > confortable... apparently the > way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion users > to understand... > AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it seems > to work > well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, > Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg > project is advanced and usable... > Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... > Why not Mercurial? > > > > Pete Muir escribió: > > A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to > > GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. > > > > This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev > > model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and > > then contribute them back to us. > > > > The proposal is to use Github to host. > > > > The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? > > > > Pete > > > > -- > > Pete Muir > > http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete > > _______________________________________________ > > seam-dev mailing list > > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > > > > > > > -- > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ > > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, archivos > insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información confidencial o > reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la Información Pública del > Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho fundamental a la > privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por cualquier persona > distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta > transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda inmediatamente al > emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, > distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores > no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y puede > considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación penal y civil > vigente. > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > -- Daniel Roth M.Sc. Computer Science daniel(a)danielroth.se www.danielroth.se +46 736 36 29 46

Von: Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; Betreff: Re: [seam-dev] Mercurial vs GIT An: "Daniel Roth" <daniel(a)danielroth.se&gt; CC: &quot;seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&quot; <seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; Datum: Mittwoch, 25. November 2009, 13:43 I can certainly see that a DVCS might not be a good fit for closed source / in company software development. All the work an engineer on the project does is likely to make it into the project at some point (even if heavily refactored), and they are unlikely to want to share it with many other people before it goes into VCS. However if you consider Seam, then there are often cases where someone is maintaining a patch for months or even years against trunk which they want to easily share with other users. As we move towards to a more modular approach, this becomes even more apparent - you might want to develop a module outside the Seam master, and share it with the community. At some point we might add it to the master. I believe a DVCS is ideally suited to this. Pete On 24 Nov 2009, at 22:22, Daniel Roth wrote: > 1) I have not tried GIT...  > 2) Comparing Mercurial and SVN, for me, is like comparing an nightmare and ease of use. > > There is a Mercurial plugin for Eclipse, but it's really no good. We experienced some bugs at work with it (DivideByZero), submitted a patch but... Still nothing has happened... I've tried meld, kdiff3 and the tortoise thingy for windows, but still I always end up with command line because things don't work. Also there is really no good way of branching. Named branches is a MESS so even the hg team thinks it's better to crete to different clones and then manually merge them. (See their manual) > > One other thing I'd like to say is that having a distr. repo may sound really fancy, but it's rarely needed. Although being spread over different offices all over the world, that feature is never really needed at my work. And the really really really few times it is, you could just as well make an ordinary patch, and give it to the other person. However, there have been many times when hours has been wasted when trying to resolve issues when two people have worked in our root repo at the same time. > > Just my 10 öre... > > Daniel > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Stuart Douglas <stuart(a)baileyroberts.com.au&gt; wrote: > As I understand it GIT support on windows is not good, and also just having a quick google around it looks like the tooling support is not very mature either. Also the commands are different to subversions commands so there is quite a steep learning curve. > I like bazaar, it uses the same commands as subversion, works on all platforms and has eclipse and windows support. It also has launchpad, which is the bzr equivalent of github. > > Stuart > ________________________________________ > From: seam-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org [seam-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Francisco Jose Peredo [franciscoperedo(a)tabasco.gob.mx] > Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2009 1:17 AM > To: seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > Cc: weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > Subject: Re: [seam-dev] Mercurial vs GIT > > I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is pretty complicated > to learn to use... > OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also distributed, and found it > confortable... apparently the > way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for subversion users > to understand... > AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also OpenJDK... So it seems > to work > well with large code bases... and there are plugins for Netbeans, > Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg > project is advanced and usable... > Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... > Why not Mercurial? > > > > Pete Muir escribió: > > A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was whether to switch to > > GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. > > > > This would give us a IMO a system well suited to our distribued dev > > model, it would also make it much easier for others to sandbox PEs and > > then contribute them back to us. > > > > The proposal is to use Github to host. > > > > The team members at devoxx were in favour, but what do others think? > > > > Pete > > > > -- > > Pete Muir > > http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete > > _______________________________________________ > > seam-dev mailing list > > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > > > > > > > -- > Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros > Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación Gubernamental > Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas > Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. Reforma > C.P. 86086, Villahermosa, Tabasco. > Tel. 52 + 993 + 310 40 00 Ext. 7127 > http://saf.tabasco.gob.mx/ > > IMPORTANTE: Esta transmisión electrónica, incluyendo sus anexos, archivos insertados o "attachments", puede constituir información confidencial o reservada, en los términos de la Ley de Acceso a la Información Pública del Estado de Tabasco, y estar protegida por el derecho fundamental a la privacidad. Se prohibe el uso de esta información por cualquier persona distinta al receptor intencional o previsto. Si usted ha recibibido esta transmisión electrónica por error, por favor responda inmediatamente al emisor y borre esta información de su sistema. El uso, diseminación, distribución o reproducción de esta transmisión electrónica por receptores no intencionados o no previstos por el emisor, no está autorizada y puede considerarse ilícita en los términos de la legislación penal y civil vigente. > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev > > > > -- > Daniel Roth > M.Sc. Computer Science > daniel(a)danielroth.se > www.danielroth.se > +46 736 36 29 46 > _______________________________________________ > seam-dev mailing list > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev _______________________________________________ seam-dev mailing list seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev

I've imported Weld core trunk into both GitHub http://github.com/pmuir/weld-test and BitBucket: http://bitbucket.org/pmuir/weld-test/ for people to play with. Both these repos will be dropped once we make a decision, so treat them as playgrounds only! Pete On 25 Nov 2009, at 13:07, Mark Struberg wrote: > Another strong point for using GIT is the Gerrit source review system. > It makes contributing patches easier, and much more: it makes _applying_ those contributions even easier. > > LieGrue, > strub > > --- Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; schrieb am Mi, 25.11.2009: > >> Von: Pete Muir <pmuir(a)redhat.com&gt; >> Betreff: Re: [seam-dev] Mercurial vs GIT >> An: "Daniel Roth" <daniel(a)danielroth.se&gt; >> CC: &quot;seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&quot; <seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; >> Datum: Mittwoch, 25. November 2009, 13:43 >> I can certainly see that a DVCS might >> not be a good fit for closed source / in company software >> development. All the work an engineer on the project does is >> likely to make it into the project at some point (even if >> heavily refactored), and they are unlikely to want to share >> it with many other people before it goes into VCS. >> >> However if you consider Seam, then there are often cases >> where someone is maintaining a patch for months or even >> years against trunk which they want to easily share with >> other users. As we move towards to a more modular approach, >> this becomes even more apparent - you might want to develop >> a module outside the Seam master, and share it with the >> community. At some point we might add it to the master. I >> believe a DVCS is ideally suited to this. >> >> Pete >> >> On 24 Nov 2009, at 22:22, Daniel Roth wrote: >> >>> 1) I have not tried GIT... >>> 2) Comparing Mercurial and SVN, for me, is like >> comparing an nightmare and ease of use. >>> >>> There is a Mercurial plugin for Eclipse, but it's >> really no good. We experienced some bugs at work with it >> (DivideByZero), submitted a patch but... Still nothing has >> happened... I've tried meld, kdiff3 and the tortoise thingy >> for windows, but still I always end up with command line >> because things don't work. Also there is really no good way >> of branching. Named branches is a MESS so even the hg team >> thinks it's better to crete to different clones and then >> manually merge them. (See their manual) >>> >>> One other thing I'd like to say is that having a >> distr. repo may sound really fancy, but it's rarely needed. >> Although being spread over different offices all over the >> world, that feature is never really needed at my work. And >> the really really really few times it is, you could just as >> well make an ordinary patch, and give it to the other >> person. However, there have been many times when hours has >> been wasted when trying to resolve issues when two people >> have worked in our root repo at the same time. >>> >>> Just my 10 öre... >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Stuart Douglas >> <stuart(a)baileyroberts.com.au&gt; >> wrote: >>> As I understand it GIT support on windows is not good, >> and also just having a quick google around it looks like the >> tooling support is not very mature either. Also the commands >> are different to subversions commands so there is quite a >> steep learning curve. >>> I like bazaar, it uses the same commands as >> subversion, works on all platforms and has eclipse and >> windows support. It also has launchpad, which is the bzr >> equivalent of github. >>> >>> Stuart >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: seam-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org >> [seam-dev-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org] >> On Behalf Of Francisco Jose Peredo [franciscoperedo(a)tabasco.gob.mx] >>> Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 2009 1:17 AM >>> To: seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> Cc: weld-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> Subject: Re: [seam-dev] Mercurial vs GIT >>> >>> I have not tried GIT, but from what I have read it is >> pretty complicated >>> to learn to use... >>> OTOH I have tried Mercurial, which is also >> distributed, and found it >>> confortable... apparently the >>> way it deals with its distribute nature is easier for >> subversion users >>> to understand... >>> AFAIK Netbeans source code is in Mercurial, also >> OpenJDK... So it seems >>> to work >>> well with large code bases... and there are plugins >> for Netbeans, >>> Eclipse and the Tortoise Hg >>> project is advanced and usable... >>> Google Code offers free Mercurial hosting... >>> Why not Mercurial? >>> >>> >>> >>> Pete Muir escribió: >>>> A quick item we discussed at the f2f meeting was >> whether to switch to >>>> GIT for our SCM, rather than SVN. >>>> >>>> This would give us a IMO a system well suited to >> our distribued dev >>>> model, it would also make it much easier for >> others to sandbox PEs and >>>> then contribute them back to us. >>>> >>>> The proposal is to use Github to host. >>>> >>>> The team members at devoxx were in favour, but >> what do others think? >>>> >>>> Pete >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Pete Muir >>>> http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/Pete >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> seam-dev mailing list >>>> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dirección Informática de Servicios Financieros >>> Dirección General de Modernización e Innovación >> Gubernamental >>> Secretaría de Administración y Finanzas >>> Paseo de la Sierra 435 col. 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