12:48 a.m.
Hi,
I'm looking for feedback, I'll develop a Semantic Web Drools Module that
will be the subject of my Master Degree Tesis.
The idea is to use Eclipse Modelling Framework (EMF) for prototyping and
follow a Model Driven Architecture (MDA) where the source language is
Semantic of Business Vocabularies and Business Rules (SBVR) and the target
language is Drools DRL.
The mapping could be (PIM level):
- Semantic Web Rule Language (SWRL)
- Ontology Web Language (OWL)
- RuleML
- Rule Interchange Format (RIF)
- REWERSE Rule Markup Language (R2ML)
It could be added to the module at the source UML or Entity Relationship
like models to transform the models into SBVR.
Regards
Xavier Breton
5:28 a.m.
sounds really interesting.
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Xavier Breton <xavier.breton(a)acm.org>wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for feedback, I'll develop a Semantic Web Drools Module that
will be the subject of my Master Degree Tesis.
The idea is to use Eclipse Modelling Framework (EMF) for prototyping and
follow a Model Driven Architecture (MDA) where the source language is
Semantic of Business Vocabularies and Business Rules (SBVR) and the target
language is Drools DRL.
The mapping could be (PIM level):
- Semantic Web Rule Language (SWRL)
- Ontology Web Language (OWL)
- RuleML
- Rule Interchange Format (RIF)
- REWERSE Rule Markup Language (R2ML)
It could be added to the module at the source UML or Entity Relationship
like models to transform the models into SBVR.
Regards
Xavier Breton
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6:13 a.m.
Interesting - well I think there is interest in OWL, maybe RIF and
RuleML is still around, but the others - I haven't heard much?
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Xavier Breton <xavier.breton(a)acm.org> wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for feedback, I'll develop a Semantic Web Drools Module that
will be the subject of my Master Degree Tesis.
The idea is to use Eclipse Modelling Framework (EMF) for prototyping and
follow a Model Driven Architecture (MDA) where the source language is
Semantic of Business Vocabularies and Business Rules (SBVR) and the target
language is Drools DRL.
The mapping could be (PIM level):
- Semantic Web Rule Language (SWRL)
- Ontology Web Language (OWL)
- RuleML
- Rule Interchange Format (RIF)
- REWERSE Rule Markup Language (R2ML)
It could be added to the module at the source UML or Entity Relationship
like models to transform the models into SBVR.
Regards
Xavier Breton
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6:31 a.m.
+1 for OWL
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Michael Neale <michael.neale(a)gmail.com>wrote:
Interesting - well I think there is interest in OWL, maybe RIF and
RuleML is still around, but the others - I haven't heard much?
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Xavier Breton <xavier.breton(a)acm.org>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for feedback, I'll develop a Semantic Web Drools Module that
> will be the subject of my Master Degree Tesis.
>
> The idea is to use Eclipse Modelling Framework (EMF) for prototyping and
> follow a Model Driven Architecture (MDA) where the source language is
> Semantic of Business Vocabularies and Business Rules (SBVR) and the
target
> language is Drools DRL.
>
> The mapping could be (PIM level):
> - Semantic Web Rule Language (SWRL)
> - Ontology Web Language (OWL)
> - RuleML
> - Rule Interchange Format (RIF)
> - REWERSE Rule Markup Language (R2ML)
>
> It could be added to the module at the source UML or Entity Relationship
> like models to transform the models into SBVR.
>
> Regards
>
> Xavier Breton
>
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8:33 a.m.
The way I'd do this is to build native support into drools for
description logic, using terminology used in OWL-DL. I'd then look to
something like the Manchester syntax, or variation of, for the textual
representation. Once I have that working I'd look into GUI authoring and
transation (RueML etc) to and from that.
Mark
Xavier Breton wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for feedback, I'll develop a Semantic Web Drools Module
that will be the subject of my Master Degree Tesis.
The idea is to use Eclipse Modelling Framework (EMF) for prototyping
and follow a Model Driven Architecture (MDA) where the source language
is Semantic of Business Vocabularies and Business Rules (SBVR) and the
target language is Drools DRL.
The mapping could be (PIM level):
- Semantic Web Rule Language (SWRL)
- Ontology Web Language (OWL)
- RuleML
- Rule Interchange Format (RIF)
- REWERSE Rule Markup Language (R2ML)
It could be added to the module at the source UML or Entity
Relationship like models to transform the models into SBVR.
Regards
Xavier Breton
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5:25 p.m.
So some support in -core would be needed? Or could this be done as an
optional module or 2? drools-semweb (and submodules perhaps??)
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Mark Proctor <mproctor(a)codehaus.org> wrote:
The way I'd do this is to build native support into drools for
description
logic, using terminology used in OWL-DL. I'd then look to something like the
Manchester syntax, or variation of, for the textual representation. Once I
have that working I'd look into GUI authoring and transation (RueML etc) to
and from that.
Mark
Xavier Breton wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for feedback, I'll develop a Semantic Web Drools Module that
will be the subject of my Master Degree Tesis.
The idea is to use Eclipse Modelling Framework (EMF) for prototyping and
follow a Model Driven Architecture (MDA) where the source language is
Semantic of Business Vocabularies and Business Rules (SBVR) and the target
language is Drools DRL.
The mapping could be (PIM level):
- Semantic Web Rule Language (SWRL)
- Ontology Web Language (OWL)
- RuleML
- Rule Interchange Format (RIF)
- REWERSE Rule Markup Language (R2ML)
It could be added to the module at the source UML or Entity Relationship
like models to transform the models into SBVR.
Regards
Xavier Breton
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6:15 p.m.
Michael Neale wrote:
So some support in -core would be needed? Or could this be done as
an
optional module or 2? drools-semweb (and submodules perhaps??)
In theory you can do sem web ontop of core, as is. But it wouldn't look
very nice in DRL. I'd like to actually see direct support in DRL, where
the joins are inferred from the data models themselves. That sort of thing.
Mark
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Mark Proctor
<mproctor(a)codehaus.org> wrote:
> The way I'd do this is to build native support into drools for description
> logic, using terminology used in OWL-DL. I'd then look to something like the
> Manchester syntax, or variation of, for the textual representation. Once I
> have that working I'd look into GUI authoring and transation (RueML etc) to
> and from that.
>
> Mark
> Xavier Breton wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for feedback, I'll develop a Semantic Web Drools Module that
> will be the subject of my Master Degree Tesis.
>
> The idea is to use Eclipse Modelling Framework (EMF) for prototyping and
> follow a Model Driven Architecture (MDA) where the source language is
> Semantic of Business Vocabularies and Business Rules (SBVR) and the target
> language is Drools DRL.
>
> The mapping could be (PIM level):
> - Semantic Web Rule Language (SWRL)
> - Ontology Web Language (OWL)
> - RuleML
> - Rule Interchange Format (RIF)
> - REWERSE Rule Markup Language (R2ML)
>
> It could be added to the module at the source UML or Entity Relationship
> like models to transform the models into SBVR.
>
> Regards
>
> Xavier Breton
>
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3:54 a.m.
Hi,
Maybe I'm a little outdated with this thread. I'm currently developing with
Drools and
found this thread fascinating.
I really like the idea of using an MDA overlay layer on top of which PSM
models are
generated, and I've found myself trying to do the same regarding facts of
the RuleModel
coming from an ontology in kind of semantic repository for translating them
and importing
them into Guvnor.
I will be pleased if you let me know if there was some advance regarding the
integration of
semantics into Drools. My current efforts are actually going to Business
Intelligence through
semantics and think rules engine will really help.
Something is actually available (concept drafts) at docs sections in
http://cognescent.googlecode.com http://cognescent.googlecode.com
Regards,
Sebastian.
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12:05 p.m.
Hi I've recently received an inquiry regarding this outdated thread,
Given the focus I'm currently turning on my development, see my googlecode
page: http://cognescent.googlecode.com (there is not really much there by
the way) you'll see I'm trying to build an underlying framework for BI
(Business Intelligence) platforms. My goals are to be able to receive data
from any data source, translate it to triples (as much as I can see, any
kind of data source is feasible to be translated into triples: relational,
NoSQL, XML, etc). Then, given that input triples, infer as much meta data
as possible, for example, infer types/classes without any schema
information and then build a meta model with this translate-able model to
other output models or endpoints.
The idea of MDAfy is still fascinating. Maybe, I'm not sure, this could
work with Drools in this way: My model has a set of predefined entities
which represents semantic / semiotic relationship. Having a set of
'predefined' rules in Drools for each kind of entity for which the meta
model provides 'executable' instances, for me sounds like some kind of meta
programming that could be done. Drools could be the engine and the meta
model and input data could be kind of script. I'm really not sure if
something like this could be done, I'm just thinking out loud.
Best regards,
Sebastian.
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 5:54 AM, cognescent <cognescent(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Maybe I'm a little outdated with this thread. I'm currently developing with
Drools and
found this thread fascinating.
I really like the idea of using an MDA overlay layer on top of which PSM
models are
generated, and I've found myself trying to do the same regarding facts of
the RuleModel
coming from an ontology in kind of semantic repository for translating them
and importing
them into Guvnor.
I will be pleased if you let me know if there was some advance regarding
the
integration of
semantics into Drools. My current efforts are actually going to Business
Intelligence through
semantics and think rules engine will really help.
Something is actually available (concept drafts) at docs sections in
http://cognescent.googlecode.com http://cognescent.googlecode.com
Regards,
Sebastian.
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Looks very exciting and usefull. Is OWL already exists? Is it already used anywhere?
Thanks,
Pradeep.
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Subject: [rules-dev] Semantic Web Drools Module, Request for Feedbak
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Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 10:48 PM
Hi,
I'm looking for feedback, I'll develop a Semantic
Web Drools Module that will be the subject of my Master
Degree Tesis.
The idea is to use Eclipse Modelling
Framework (EMF) for prototyping and follow a Model Driven
Architecture (MDA) where the source language is Semantic of
Business Vocabularies and Business Rules (SBVR) and the
target language is Drools DRL.
The mapping could be (PIM level):
- Semantic Web Rule Language (SWRL)
- Ontology Web Language (OWL)
- RuleML
- Rule Interchange Format (RIF)
- REWERSE Rule Markup Language (R2ML)
It could be added to the module at the source UML or
Entity Relationship like models to transform the models into
SBVR.
Regards
Xavier Breton
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