On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: > And bean validation and jsf2. In and by themselves these specs are a leap > forward our current stack (and everybody else's). And for the first time > these specs (jpa 2, jsf 2, bv, cdi) have been designed to actually work > naturally as a unified whole. > The framework war is over, welcome to the application stack war. As long as the frameworks are part of the stack and users have access to them, the frameworks matter IMHO, especially when it comes to API design and usability. Two frameworks or libraries with same feature set and different APIs can make a huge difference. It's something like we say we can't tell the quality of software by the number of ticked check boxes. But, I do agree with you the application stack matters a LOT, too. :) — Trustin Lee, http://gleamynode.net/ > On 12 sept. 2009, at 09:15, Max Rydahl Andersen <max.andersen(a)redhat.com&gt; > wrote: > > JPA2, CDI/WebBeans and JBoss Embedded is not enough for you ? ;) > > /max > > Robb Greathouse wrote: > > Hi, > > I am putting together a workshop for JBoss AS 5.x. I am looking for some > real wow factors. And frankly, even after talking to the core developers > (who agree) I am not finding any wow factors. > > > > > > > > > Robb Greathouse > JBoss > CELL 505-507-4906 > OFFICE 505-255-2652 > FAX 505-554-2834 > SKYPE rgreathouse > > > > > ----- "Shelly McGowan" <smcgowan(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > > > > Jason, > > > RE: > > > Also, let me know if you have a component you would like to > update/include that has low impact. > > > jboss-test and jboss-server-manager currently include alpha releases; > specifically, > > <groupId>org.jboss.test</groupId> > <artifactId>jboss-test</artifactId> > <version>1.1.5-alpha-2</version> > > <groupId>org.jboss.jbossas</groupId> > <artifactId>jboss-server-manager</artifactId> > <version>1.0.3-alpha-2</version> > > > These were needed as part of ALRs new bootstrap implementation > (JBASM-30, JBASM-31). Are these alpha versions acceptable > for the Beta1 release or would you prefer .GA? > > > Shelly > > _______________________________________________ > jboss-development mailing list > jboss-development(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-development > > > _______________________________________________ > jboss-development mailing list > jboss-development(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-development > > > _______________________________________________ > jboss-development mailing list > jboss-development(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-development > > _______________________________________________ > jboss-development mailing list > jboss-development(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-development > > _______________________________________________ jboss-development mailing list jboss-development(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-development