Re: [jboss-dev] Why Maven sucks (part 1)
Thank you, Rémy
The system I am talking about I delegates the build tasks to ant,
feeding it with the appropriate dependency information. In this respect,
your build can be as simple as "ant", no need for maven commands.
In order to implement this, the dependency manager recursively walks the
dependency tree and detects the transitive closure of your project's
dependencies, "flattens" the dependency tree, and in its current
implementation, it just bails out with a loud error message when it
detects a version conflict. It doesn't try to "guess" anything, even
that heuristics can be optionally plugged in (I am personally afraid of
heuristics, they have a habit of yielding unexpected results, so I won't
encourage that)
Here's the manual: http://fragma.sourceforge.net/FragmaUserGuide.pdf
As I said before, my proposal is to use it to configure a small
peripheral project, and if conclusions prove to be positive, decide what
to do from there, in case you guys decide to go this route.
Cheers
Ovidiu
Rémy Maucherat wrote:
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 8:47 PM, Paul Gier <pgier(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> Just so it's clear what you are asking for, you want dependencies with
> (-SNAPSHOT) to be replaced with the specific snapshot version
> (-timstamp-build) during deployment? I could probably add this as an option
> to the deploy plugin, but I don't know if this would solve the problem.
>
You do sound really fanboyish Paul, I am afraid ... Obviously, with
enough scripting and development efforts, you could turn an Ant script
into a proper dependency management system. However, the point of the
tool is to provide a ready to use solution that fits our needs. Maven
fails badly at that.
Carlo forgot the non existent error reporting (or maybe that's for
part 2). Do you have a solution for that too ?
Personally, I would encourage Ovidiu to send a patch for his
dependency system, and I'd do everything I can [assuming it does
actually work, of course - realistically, as my influence is quite
limited, that wouldn't be much, but it's a start ;) ] to get it
included in AS 5 as a replacement for Maven.
Rémy
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