Thomas, what Scott asks is essentially what I was getting at. I know the jbosgi framework is possible as an embedded container within Arquillian, but I'm not able to find documentation on the easiest way to do it. For a simple, standalone OSGi unit test with Arquillian, what's the advised way to set up the embedded container and environment? I noticed your reliance on the assembly-bundles.xml for testing -- I was hoping to find a simpler way to setup jbosgi with maven artifacts. Am I missing something trivial? Brett Meyer Red Hat Software Engineer, Hibernate +1 260.349.5732 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Marlow" <smarlow(a)redhat.com&gt; To: "Thomas Diesler" <thomas.diesler(a)jboss.com&gt; Cc: "Brett Meyer" <brmeyer(a)redhat.com&gt;, "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org&gt;, jboss-osgi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:41:38 AM Subject: Re: [jboss-osgi-dev] Arquillian for Hibernate OSGi unit tests On 06/05/2013 03:00 AM, Thomas Diesler wrote: > Hi Brett, > > The primary target for the Arquillian OSGi Container > <https://github.com/arquillian/arquillian-container-osgi> is our own > OSGi Framework <https://github.com/jbosgi/jbosgi-framework>;, which is a > compliant R5 implementation. This also explains why I removed support > for Felix because it is not (yet) R5 compliant AFAIK. Theoretically, it > would probably be possible to change pom such that it uses an older > version of the OSGi APIs when running with Felix. > > To be a good (corporate) citizen you run and talk about hibernate on the > jbosgi framework. Do you have a specific reason not to? I thought this is what people are already doing when they use the Hibernate ORM on jbosgi (since Hibernate ORM is a component). I think the Hibernate team is already contributing quite a bit and I see no reason to accuse (insulting) them of not being good citizens of the world. For standalone use though, what is the model for getting the jbosgi framework as a single (maven artifact) component? I'm asking this for my own information (not related to Hibernate native OSGi container support which I think is what Brett is talking about). I have heard talk about *embedded* (framework/platform) support in the past but not sure if we have anything to show yet. > > ARQ OSGi tests run in the framework so they would have access any OSGi > service including the LogService > <http://www.osgi.org/javadoc/r5/enterprise/org/osgi/service/log/package-su...;. > The Framework and very likely also Hibernate does not use that service > for logging I suppose. AFAIK, ARQ stays out of the business of container > logging. With all our OSGi stuff we use jboss-logging and everything > running on the framework would be delegated to that. The logging from > the hibernate bundle should show up in the configured framework log. > > cheers > --thomas > > On Jun 5, 2013, at 6:51 AM, Brett Meyer <brmeyer(a)redhat.com > <mailto:brmeyer@redhat.com>> wrote: > >> Thomas, >> >> Hello! We recently wrapped up initial support for Hibernate in OSGi. >> I've been attempting to create unit tests with an embedded container, >> but had a few questions for you. Up for it? >> >> I've been using your arquillian-container-osgi fork's >> "container-embedded" area as a reference. I have >> arquillian-container-osgi-embedded on the classpath, as well as Felix, >> but it wasn't resolving my test bundle. I noticed your comment on >> 30124a93cd [1] and am guessing that's part of the problem, although I >> know a few 3rd party bundles are missing from my deployment. >> >> So, it's more of a general question. I'd like to be able to kick this >> off as a part of Hibernate's standalone unit tests and was hoping the >> embedded container would do the trick. What setup would you >> recommend? What OSGi frameworks will work with >> arquillian-container-osgi-embedded? >> >> One secondary (and possibly elementary) question: does Arquillian have >> a way to tap into the embedded container's logs? log4j bundle? Or, >> are the container's logs still written out somewhere? >> >> Thanks for any help available! >> >> [1] >> https://github.com/tdiesler/arquillian-container-osgi/commit/30124a93cdd6... >> >> Brett Meyer >> Red Hat Software Engineer, Hibernate >> +1 260.349.5732 >> > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Thomas Diesler > JBoss OSGi Lead > JBoss, a division of Red Hat > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > jboss-osgi-dev mailing list > jboss-osgi-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-osgi-dev >