Are you interested in AS 6 in general, not just boot perf?
On 12/30/2009 06:22 PM, Bill Burke wrote:
Ales Justin wrote:
>> IMO, we should just remove AOP entirely as our customers probably are
>> not going to use it.
>
> This is exactly what will happen - remove AOP - if we disable it by
> default and re-write lifecycle handling to plain OO, w/o any costly
> pointcut matching.
>
> The only cost is lookup for potential @AOPEnable on the bean.
> While we still keep optional cool feature of creating an AOP proxy for a
> bean.
>
>> For @JMX just write another deployer and do it
>> regularly. Similarly with lifecycle and other features.
>
> Regularly?
> If you mean to register an mbean, that is actually not what we/users want.
> See my response to Dimitris this morning.
>
There probably is a way to make AOP irrelevant to boot performance, but
you need to consider pluses and minuses nevertheless...Everybody
(thousands) of users are effected by boot performance, while only a
handful care about @JMX, etc.
> While this could be a deployer feature, I think it's far more complex to
> do it than tie it into the bean's lifecycle.
> e.g. scan for @JMX, remembering the handle, checking if it's overridden
> for an instance, ... while we already have all this implemented in
> bean's lifecycle handling, it's just not optimized yet.
>
> What do you mean by "similarly with lifecycle and other features"?
> @JMX, @JNDI, @Password, ... is the lifecycle callback.
>
All these annotations that trigger AOP. Are they under the jboss
namespace? Controlled by us?
You might want to consider meta-annotations and turning @AOPEnabled into
one. i.e.
@AOPEnabled
public @interface JMX {...}
You look at the bean's class annotations, then look at those annotations
for @AOPEnabled.
>> Again, if you want to take this route, I'd be happy to do the work.
>> I am willing to spend the next month on boot performance and AS.
>
> Excellent.
> So will I and the rest of MC team.
Well, I need to know what I could do to help. Is Kabir fine on the AOP
stuff? VFS3 seems to be ok? What about removing JMX Kernel Backward
Compatibility and upgrading services to MC? I can tackle any of these
problems with little guidance I just don't want to be duplicating any
work (like with the deployer sorting).
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Brian Stansberry
Lead, AS Clustering
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