I don't know if John has that sort of info. He came up with numbers real
quickly so I suspect he did something simple like profile a boot and
look at the # of invocations of Logger.debug(). vs Logger.isDebugEnabled().
A simple thing to do is start the AS with
-Djboss.boot.server.log.level=DEBUG. Scroll through the log looking for
the numerous places where the contents of a classloader domain are
logged, filling up a couple screens. If those aren't guarded -- bad. ;)
On 01/21/2010 05:01 PM, Ales Justin wrote:
Is there a way we could pull out some stats?
e.g. # of debug calls per package/ class/log_owner
This way the biggest culprits could check, and fix things.
e.g. we used to have some heavy debug log in deployers
Although I guess the bad pieces are those where we loose time to
construct msg, which are not stats "bounty".
At least not with the old logging, w/o argvars.
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On 21.1.2010, at 23:50, Brian Stansberry<brian.stansberry(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> On 01/21/2010 11:20 AM, Brian Stansberry wrote:
>> On 01/21/2010 10:41 AM, David M. Lloyd wrote:
>>> On 01/21/2010 10:39 AM, David M. Lloyd wrote:
>>>> On 01/21/2010 09:55 AM, Brian Stansberry wrote:
>>
>> Semi-OT: a couple weeks ago, when boot.log was< 10MB I tried setting
>> -Djboss.boot.server.log.level=INFO and got very little improvement in
>> boot time (< 200ms). My take on that is we must have a lot of DEBUG
>> logging with very expensive message construction not guarded by
>> isDebugEnabled().
>>
>
> John Bailey did some quick profiling or something and estimated that
> during startup we have> 5000 log.debug() calls not guarded by
> log.isDebugEnabled(). If you look at the debug logging output, a lot
> of
> the messages are pretty heavy, some absolutely huge; if those aren't
> guarded it's a serious cost.
>
> Warning: the rest of this post is completely unsupported by evidence;
> just my gut feel.
>
> Perhaps not guarded because that method is deprecated?
>
> Here's a good explanation of why it's deprecated:
>
>
http://blogs.jboss.org/blog/dimitris/2005/04/01/AC08547736BD16504BEC955AE...
>
> I fear though that deprecating this method is a failed social
> experiment. Please resist the urge to make that deprecation warning go
> away by not putting a code guard around an expensive log.debug().
> Either
> reduce the level to trace (and keep a guard of course) or accept the
> warning and bitch publicly about the deprecation.
>
>
> Please also resist the urge to shift off of EE 6 work in order to
> scour
> all our code for logging cleanups. :)
>
> --
> Brian Stansberry
> Lead, AS Clustering
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