Steve Ebersole wrote:
<quote>
The world if bigger than Hibernate
</quote>
True, and you know what... the word is bigger than JBoss AS. As I have
mentioned numerous times, it is extremely arrogant and "ivory tower"-ish
to expect all libraries you want to consume into AS to comply with your
logging requirement.
And honestly, this whole thread shows the issues with attempting to
integrate with AS imo. Namely almost a year ago I cam on this list and
asked about this very thing we are now disucssing. And none of you
wanted to discuss it (oh some came and gave their opinions on topics
other than the question asked, sure...). Yet here y'all are a year
later willing to discuss it and chastized me and so on and so forth. An
ounce of prevention... But no (and not to single *you* out, though you
certainly fall into this) you'd rather bash people after the fact as
opposed to discuss before hand and come to a consensus. And *thats* why
this is so frustrating.
Hey I tried to be helpful! :) I even wrote code to help jboss-logging
fit your needs. I don't see any reason why it can't be used outside of
the AS. If it couldn't be, I would consider that a bug.
It is true that sl4j might be better, but IMO we really should try and
pick one universal log adapter framework. Else integration is a mess (it
already is).
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Jason T. Greene
JBoss, a division of Red Hat